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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

Good morning, panel. One of the areas that was identified for priority focus was early deaths of care-experienced children and young people. I would like to hear from you on that.

I was quite surprised to read that information about the circumstances of early deaths is not collected. I understand that there is now a national hub for reviewing and learning from early deaths of our children and young people in care.

Perhaps we could hear about that work from Kevin Mitchell initially.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

Thank you for that answer. That is exactly the point, is it not? The system has to understand individuals’ lives.

I do not know whether Mike Burns has anything further to add.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

Thank you. I will move on.

Physical restraint was another focus of the oversight board’s first report. The report states that, although there is a commitment to culture change across the residential sector, progress is mixed. What assessment has been made of the impact of the new reporting procedures in relation to restraint?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

I wish to ask about siblings. It is not unique to this area that we have some pretty strong legislation and policy, but there is a gap in what people experience, or an implementation gap. We heard this morning about practical and cultural issues that might be preventing siblings from being placed together, so I would be interested to hear the reflections of panel members on that, with a view to understanding what needs to change to ensure that we can keep siblings together. Earlier this morning, a figure of 25 per cent was quoted for the number of siblings being separated, which will be quite shocking to committee members.

I would like to hear from Louise Hunter specifically about engagement with the minister. What discussions have you had following the brothers and sisters project work? I would be interested in hearing how the Government has responded to that.

That was a jumble of questions, but if you are happy to go with that, it would be helpful to hear your responses.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

Just then, you spoke about producing a leaflet to describe to a child or a young person what their rights are. I cannot imagine many situations where that is enough, but I am thinking in particular of when a young person is going through a time of crisis in the children’s hearings system. Most adults would be hard-pressed to pick up a leaflet.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

Does Nicola Killean wish to comment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

I will go back to Louise Hunter. We have spoken about accountability, and I suppose that the ultimate accountability for legislation lies with the Scottish ministers. On this topic, what interaction have you or Who Cares? Scotland had with ministers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

Good morning, minister. This is a welcome move, and it is important for the fair work principles that you set out. Will there be any further opportunities to strengthen board governance? That is always important, but, particularly while we are operating in times of financial constraint, it is crucial that we have excellent governance on our college boards.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

It feels very uncomfortable to be talking about numbers when we are talking about actual children and young people.

I suppose that the committee would want to be reassured that, where there is learning to be had, it is possible to do that to ensure that we are doing the best for children and young people in our care. I do not know whether other panel members have anything further to add on that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Women’s Health Champion

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Ruth Maguire

I get a little bit concerned when we talk about women in deprived areas being less knowledgeable. In my experience as an MSP who represents some areas that are very economically deprived, the issue is not women’s lack of knowledge or confidence. It is simply more challenging for someone to interact with a system if they are an employee rather than self-employed or if they are in a low-income job, or—as you said, Professor Glasier—if they have children to look after and different demands on their time. I just want to reflect—as you did in your answer, to be fair—that it would be quite a dangerous and lazy assumption for us to make in talking about women’s health.