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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Can you expand on that a bit and give us an example? I know that that will be difficult, given that this is a new thing.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

I want to follow up on that a bit. I totally acknowledge that the two activities are different and have different aims. However, I am reflecting on what Professor Cameron said about women perhaps feeling uncomfortable that there might be media attention and cameras. Walking past any group of people could be distressing, no matter what those people are doing. Mr Poolman, will you expand on that? Would union members picket a sexual and reproductive health clinic?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

That is helpful.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

I have questions on the next theme.

I want to ask about criminal offences and penalties in the bill. I appreciate that that might not be your area of expertise, but I would value your opinions.

Some opponents of the bill have raised concerns that the behaviour that is captured in section 4, on criminal offences, is wide-ranging and unclear. Do you have any views on the clarity of the offences, as they are described in the bill?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Would Police Scotland have any concerns about enforcing legislation that was about what somebody was thinking?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Do you think that the offences in the bill have a lower evidential requirement than that of existing offences, such those relating to harassment or threatening behaviour?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Thank you. That is helpful.

Section 5 would create an offence relating to behaviour from property that is within a safe access zone but not covered by it, where that could be seen or heard from the safe access zone. Are there any existing offences that are similar in nature? Do you have any opinion on the proportionality of that measure?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

We heard from the previous witnesses about how even silent praying can cause distress and anxiety and can impede people going into clinics. How would a police officer determine what somebody was praying about silently?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

I want to press you on that a little, and perhaps bring in Professor Cameron. The bill will include people who do not have placards and people who are silently doing their vigil or praying, or whatever they want to call it. The issue is still about women not having to walk through a group of individuals to access their healthcare. Do you have a comment on that, Professor Cameron?