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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

I am going to press you on the question, although I realise that it would be amazing if we had the answer. We could all probably walk out, implement it and do it, but it is not straightforward. I want to press you a little bit on the notion of pausing. What do we require to pause? As you say, everyone is for early intervention and prevention until we get to the point at which we have to stop doing something. It would be helpful for the committee to understand how the system could pause in that way and what would need to happen. I get that that is quite a big question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

I will stop you there for a second. I do not think that anyone in the room would disagree with the idea that public services need to wrap around children, families or whoever the service users are. My question is about what practitioners need. All of us appreciate the strain that our public services are under in relation to demand and workforce, and we acknowledge how hard everybody is working. Given that that is the case, I imagine that some of the high-level talk about restructuring public services would cause alarm among practitioners. What do people who are working with children on the ground now need in order to be able to make things better for children? That might be a question for folk who are involved in such work.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

That would be helpful.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Vivienne Sutherland, in response to one of my colleagues—I cannot remember who it was, as it was a while ago—you spoke about the desire to move from crisis to prevention. You were talking about the post-pandemic period, in particular, but I think that that has been a theme for our public services in Scotland for quite a long time. Can you say a bit more about what needs to happen to create the space to do that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Good morning. I thank the witnesses for their evidence so far—I appreciate it. My questions were going to be about human rights considerations, but I think that we have already covered that issue quite a bit. However, you can come back in if there is anything further that you wish to say on the matter.

Isabel Vaughan-Spruce, you talked about your arrest for silent prayer. Could you describe exactly what happened in that situation?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Thank you for sharing that. I wonder whether other panel members have any comments on the human rights aspect and the balancing of rights. As I have said, we might have had the opportunity to work some of that out through earlier questioning, but I just want to open it up.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

I thank the witnesses for being with us. Do you or your organisations think that there might be wider implications for other places or types of protest?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

I am sorry—I am catching your eye, but you are on screen, so I was trying to interrupt you via the system. I wanted to ask about the wider issue. I cannot imagine another situation in which we would even be discussing policing what people are thinking. We have examples quite close to home of protesting that would probably be seen as more mainstream being cracked down on. Do you have any views on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

That is helpful.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

You have referenced it, so you might well have seen that, last week, I asked a Police Scotland representative whether they would be comfortable with policing people’s thoughts in terms of prayer, and they responded clearly that they would not, and that they would not anticipate asking somebody what they were praying about. If the legislation should go ahead, is protection needed through an exemption for silent prayer?