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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

To go back to the question about section 4, is it the Government’s intention that silent prayer—without any placards or other paraphernalia—will be caught under the legislation?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Following on from Ross Greer’s question about display of visual symbols on private property, you said that whether that would be caught by the bill would depend on the context and whether the displaying of those symbols would influence someone’s decision. Is the issue to do with a person’s intention to influence or whether an individual is influenced? It is a terribly complex issue, is it not? It is not straightforward.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

When we make laws, we do so on points of principle, and the same Government will not always be in charge. On a point of principle, are you comfortable with that level of ministerial power to curb protest?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

On ministerial powers and the extension of zones, we have focused quite a lot on big city centre locations rather than on big premises, but the picture is quite diverse across the country. Extending zones could take in quite large bits or further bits of the community. If a zone was not just within healthcare premises, would there be a need to consult again, given that this is about balancing rights?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

That is very important. In the questions that I am asking, I am in no way diminishing at all the impact on women, but it is important that we explore the issue thoroughly.

You spoke in general terms about balancing rights. Can you speak a bit more specifically about the process that the Scottish Government went through when looking at the balance of rights and the human rights implications of the bill?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

There have been calls for post-legislative reviews to be embedded in the bill. How do you respond to that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

Finally, we spoke about the right of women to access healthcare without obstruction. Is there an argument to be made that, in order to take account of women’s privacy and so that they feel that they are secure and safe in accessing healthcare, particularly for something that is deeply personal to them, there should not be any protests outside those facilities?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

How will that be enforced? How will we know what somebody is silently judging or praising, or whatever they are silently doing?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

I have questions about how to prevent relationships from becoming adversarial. We have covered the things that can be done with communication, as well as the important point about masking.

Chloe Minto, you mentioned the number of files that Govan Law Centre has dealt with and how there are only eight for care-experienced children. It would be lovely to think that that is because their needs are being met, but I suspect that there might be other challenges around that. We spoke about capacity when it comes to challenging local authorities, and if a local authority employee is caring for a young person, it might be hard for that person to challenge their employer. Do you know why the centre has dealt with so few of those children?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Ruth Maguire

The independence of the tribunal service came across in evidence last week. Does the Govan Law Centre know the demographics of the parents who are contacting its services? I am curious about who is being missed out and who is not making it to your services.