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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 October 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

That is what I am coming to, but it is important to outline our position in relation to the framework, because it sets the context in which progress has been made. SEPA has assumed responsibility for the authorisation of discharge of treatment residues from wellboats. That responsibility transferred from Marine Scotland to SEPA. Responsibility for other areas is in the process of being transferred to SEPA, so it will be looking at the cumulative impact of the different issues within our marine environment. So, there have been improvements in that regard. Officials might want to come in on some of the specifics.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

On the science, the Scottish Science Advisory Council’s report highlights some of the intrinsic problems that exist and how different science can be used by different people. We need to consider those issues. Obviously, we have to consider the recommendations that we have received on how we communicate that, which will probably help us to find a way through. That is exactly why we asked the advisory council for its report.

A lot of that will also be helped by the work of the consenting task group and what it is trying to do to establish multilateral engagement at the start of the process, as well as all the other pieces of work that we have touched on this morning. SEPA is looking to introduce the new sea lice framework in order to look at the impacts on the marine environment holistically through its own framework. All those strands of work are important in addressing that point.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Jill Barber can talk through the process that is followed by the fish health inspectorate and its role.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

It is really important that communities are able to have their say. Indeed, we specifically recognised and mentioned that point when we talked about introducing and bringing forward a vision for sustainable aquaculture in Scotland. Of course, we are in the process of developing all of that, and I hope to be in a position soon to share it with the committee, but you will see the role specified in that.

It is the same in my community, your community or whatever community: when a proposal for development arises, it is right and fair that people have the ability to make their views known as the planning process proceeds. We recognise that within the planning process as it exists. Again, I come back to the work that has been taken forward through the consenting task group. The multilateral discussion that takes place at an earlier stage, and that we hope will involve communities, is a key element of the process. It is important that those discussions are held at the earliest possible stage in developments and that communities are engaged with as much as possible.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

I am sorry, but do you mean the Government’s relationship with SEPA?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Yes, as much as it is possible to do that. As I said, we need to ensure that we have flexibility to deal with the challenges that we face. In my first response, I outlined the overall SEPA fin-fish framework and the different phases of work that are being taken forward by consolidating SEPA as the overall environmental regulator. That helps significantly in the process.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

I do not know whether we have the figures for comparison with the industries in other countries. Perhaps we can provide them later.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

That is set out in regulations—they need to be disposed of in a certain way. Jill Barber might be able to give a bit more information on that. It is probably important to mention how some of the figures are recorded. Some of the mortalities are not necessarily an indictment or reflective of the husbandry of those animals, as they include things such as sub-optimal ova.

I hand over to Jill Barber.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Mairi Gougeon

As far as I am aware, New Zealand asked for this during the negotiations primarily to benefit some of the smaller producers that provide mainly for the home market at the moment but could see an opportunity to export to the UK.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Thanks for inviting me to speak about the regulations. On 28 February last year, the United Kingdom signed a free trade agreement with New Zealand. During negotiations, the UK committed to making three minor changes to domestic legislation on how wine and other alcoholic drinks are described and marketed.

The Scottish Government remains of the view that the best option for the UK as a whole and for Scotland is the one that Scotland voted for—that is, remaining in the European Union. The Scottish Government’s default position is to align with EU law where appropriate and where that is in Scotland’s interests. However, as a responsible Government, we are required to observe and implement the United Kingdom’s international obligations. The instrument is required to implement the New Zealand free trade agreement.

The changes that are set out in the instrument will bring some flexibilities to how wine and other alcoholic drinks can be labelled and marketed. However, it will not impact on the practices that are currently employed by producers and traders, who can continue to label and market as they currently do.

The changes allow producers and sellers of wine and other alcoholic drinks slightly more flexibility in respect of the information that they choose to include on their labels. The instrument will make three changes to retained EU law.

First, the instrument will allow any wine product to show alcoholic strength to one decimal place—for example, the strength could be 12.2 per cent or 12.7 per cent. Retained EU law currently limits wine to being labelled to show alcoholic strength to whole or half units—for example, 12 per cent or 12.5 per cent. That will continue to remain a possibility for wine that is marketed here or exported.

The concession to label wine to a single decimal place is not new. That possibility was already extended to Australian wines by the EU in its wine trade agreement with Australia, which the UK retained after exit.

The instrument will also introduce a change to rules concerning the labelling of grape varieties for wine that is marketed in Great Britain. It will require that, where more than one grape variety is listed on a wine label, the named varieties must total at least 95 per cent of the content of the wine. Current retained EU legislation requires that to be 100 per cent. The changes will mean that up to 5 per cent of the content may consist of varieties that are not shown on the label.

The changes that are proposed in the instrument will provide businesses that market and produce wine of multiple grape varieties with the scope to vary the production of a wine, to bring improved consistency and quality. UK domestic wine producers have warmly welcomed the flexibility that that will bring.

The regulations will also allow flexibility in how the terms “alc”, or alcohol, and “vol”, or volume, appear with the numerical alcohol content on wine and other alcoholic beverages. The current rules require that “alc” appears before the numerical alcohol content of the drink and “vol” after. The instrument will allow the term “alc” to appear after the numerical alcohol content of the drink.

Together, those changes will facilitate the trade between the UK and New Zealand. They may also help smaller producers in both countries who might wish to exploit a niche for their product in the market but for whom the size of the order would mean a full label change that would not be economically viable.

I stress that the changes are optional. We expect that many in the industry with established markets in Northern Ireland and/or the EU will continue to label and market wine as they currently do to support sales in those markets.

The Scottish Government consented to a Great Britain-wide consultation seeking views from stakeholders in the sector and more widely on the proposal, and the UK wine industry firmly supports the changes set out in this instrument and welcomes the flexibility that it provides.

I hope that I have said enough to assure members of the need for this instrument. It represents just one part of the changes being made that will allow the new free trade agreement with New Zealand to come into force, but in making those changes we have taken the opportunity to give our thriving wine and alcoholic drinks sector flexibility that will support it to trade in the future.

Finally, the instrument also amends article 11 of retained regulation (EU) 543/2011 to correct a minor error that is contained in regulation 5(5) of the Agriculture (Retained EU Law and Data) (Scotland) Act 2020 (Consequential Modifications) and Agricultural Products, Aquatic Animal Health and Genetically Modified Organisms (EU Exit) (Amendment) Regulations 2022. I am happy to take any questions that the committee might have.