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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 October 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Absolutely. Rhoda Grant touched on that issue, too. We have to ensure that we have in place the basic infrastructure, transport connectivity, housing in rural areas and so on. You are absolutely right. Aside from the fish farmers themselves, this is an industry that pretty much touches every part of Scotland, whether rural or not. I recognise the importance of your point.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

You will be aware that that work is being led by my colleague Màiri McAllan, the Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Just Transition. I have not seen the consultation responses yet, so I cannot go into any detail about what they contain, but I know that the salmon sector and the fishing industry have expressed concern about the process. We have had the consultation, and we now need to analyse the responses.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Those are definitely issues that we want to take forward as we look at and revise the regulatory regime. I am more than happy to take that on board and to consider it as part of that work.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

That is the third time that you have asked me the question, convener. I cannot give a definitive response. Of course, we want to do what we can to drive down the rate from the current figure. It is in our interest and the industry’s interest to do so.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

SEPA is ultimately answerable to the Scottish Government. We have a positive working relationship, and the work that we take forward through the Scottish Aquaculture Council is really important in that. It brings together all the key stakeholders: industry, environmental organisations and the key regulatory bodies that are involved in aquaculture in Scotland. I am really trying to facilitate those wider discussions. Last week, as I said, we had a meeting at which we went into detail about the science report that we received on some of those recommendations. We have positive relationships there.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Again, it is not possible for me to give a definitive figure for that. We want the level to be as low as possible. With some of the figures that you talked about, it is hard to say, because there are things that we cannot predict. I talked about what could have been a specific event last year; we do not know whether that could become a trend that would become more of an issue.

I want to correct your point that it is not mandatory to report mortality. The industry must record it—that is a mandatory requirement. We talked about the inspection regime, how that information is collected and the role of the fish health inspectorate. I want to be clear on that point.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

It can vary between 15 per cent and 25 per cent.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Yes—absolutely. In previous responses this morning, I have touched on the work that has been undertaken through the farmed fish health framework. You are right: we are five years on from its establishment. There was a refresh in 2020. The group is chaired by the chief vet, and it brings together the producers, regulators and innovation centres. Fish vets are part of that body, as well. At the time of the refresh, the group looked to refocus its priorities, and the key priorities to focus on were climate change, looking at treatments, and trying to address mortalities throughout that time.

I mentioned in a previous response that one of the key achievements within that time has been the standardised reporting of mortalities. The group has worked on and produced the 10 overarching categories into which they would fall. Work has been done in partnership with SAIC, as well—SAIC has been leading on that—in looking at some of the issues that we know that the industry faces. For example, that work has looked at harmful algal blooms. They are also looking at potentially trying to remove the barriers to vaccination.

A lot of work has been undertaken, and a lot of work is on-going. If the committee would like a fuller update on the work that has been undertaken through the farmed fish health framework, I would be happy to provide that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

We want to see as few as possible. We have the minimum thresholds and, as I said, we will keep them under review. Industry has to report the numbers—there is a mandatory requirement for it to do so, and the numbers are posted a week in arrears. As I highlighted in my previous response, the vast majority are already below our minimum thresholds. The work that we are taking forward through the sea lice framework will be critical. We really need that to be embedded before we consider whether it is appropriate to continue to lower the thresholds.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Mairi Gougeon

As I said, there is a mandatory requirement for industry to publish the figures. The fish health inspectorate has a role to play in that. Its role is to audit that information, and it also undertakes inspections. We therefore inspect, audit and check.