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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

It would be worrying if we saw a further reduction in the planning headcount.

I note briefly that we welcome the fact that, previously at this committee, the Scottish Government committed to widening access to the planning profession through the introduction of a planning apprenticeship. We have seen that work in England.

The other thing that has been done in England is that, last year, a £5,000 bursary was brought in to encourage people to enter the planning profession through the master’s degree route. We know that, in Scotland, it is getting harder to find an entry point into planning as an undergraduate. That bursary was part of the levelling-up scheme. You talked about putting a saltire in the ground. Is anything coming forward that will not just signal the sentiment that planning is a worthwhile profession but will provide incentives to ensure that we have a pipeline of planners to do the work that you are so committed to?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I will give just one example. The Government has important targets on native woodland creation. However, it looks as though it is cutting £33.6 million to Scottish Forestry, in addition to a 41 per cent cut to funding for woodland creation schemes. When it comes to making the right impact, is that decision justified, or do you have any concerns?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Okay. However, it looks like a lot of the ScotWind auction money has been drawn down already. Some people have raised concerns that Scotland’s sea bed was sold off too cheaply in the first place; they now feel that we are getting the worst of both worlds because the investment that was supposed to go into tackling the climate and nature emergency looks like it has just been absorbed into general spending. Can you guarantee that moneys that are raised by ScotWind’s future auctions will be used for the intended purpose—that of the original pledge that was made to tackle the twin climate and biodiversity crises?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I am talking about the money that came in through the options for the ScotWind leasing.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

That is very helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I will go back to Ben Macpherson’s important question about resource for our planning authorities, given that it is imperative that we speed up consenting for new energy projects and that the planning profession is important for growing the wellbeing economy and achieving the just transition that we all want for workers and communities.

I declare an interest in that I am a former member of the Royal Town Planning Institute Scotland. I am worried by recent data from RTPI Scotland. What the cabinet secretary set out in relation to what the budget might be able to do to address the question that Mr Macpherson asked sounded quite optimistic. However, we know that we are losing staff and budget from planning authorities.

RTPI Scotland says that its latest analysis of data about planning resources in Scotland shows that the public sector workforce of planners is at its lowest level in five years. The most recent figures, for 2022-23, show that we have a headcount of 1,205 public sector planners in those planning authorities. In the budget that you are proposing now, will that figure increase? If it will, by how much?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I think that it was £56 million, as part of the emergency budget review in 2022.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I want to better understand some of the figures. Perhaps Mr Gray can help. What has the £56 million been used for so far? That was allocated back in 2022, so what has happened to the £56 million?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Again, thanks for reminding us about the context in which we discuss these matters; we know that there are many challenges. You have talked about the methodology and the importance of transparency in budgeting—being able to look line by line and see the impact. The Government’s original commitment was to use the ScotWind money to tackle the climate and nature emergency, not to deal with the NHS or public services more generally. Given that my original question was about your level of confidence to meet interim 2030 and 2045 emission reduction targets, are we to take away that you, today, cannot guarantee that that ScotWind money will be used for tackling the climate and nature emergency only?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

No—that was very helpful.