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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Monica Lennon

Thank you for that helpful answer. I just want to probe this a little bit more. Under the bill as drafted, ministers will take into account whether there is a positive impact on local community sustainability. You might have a view on whether that has been sufficiently defined, but is it your view that the definition should take in, for example, just transition, the impact on the local economy and the impact on workers and supply chains? Are those the kinds of things that you are thinking of when you talk about the business impacts?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Monica Lennon

It is helpful that you explained the inflationary increase. The penalty for failure to submit information, for example, is a civil penalty of £5,000, which a big operator might not notice. I was therefore curious to understand how robust the regime has been.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Monica Lennon

I am trying to understand whether the concern is about the level of detail with regard to the threshold.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Monica Lennon

Thank you. That was helpful.

When it comes to meaningful community engagement or community consultation—which can mean different things—what are the current barriers? I just want to understand that better. Again, what problem are we trying to fix? A few words from each of you on that might be helpful.

I see you nodding, Gemma.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Monica Lennon

I have one final, brief question for Sarah-Jane Laing, who talked about consultation or engagement fatigue. I imagine that a landowner, particularly of a large estate, would outsource some of the engagement work to consultants. How do landowners ensure that it is not a box-ticking exercise? How do they make sure that engagement is meaningful and that people feel that they have been listened to? Is there any way of checking that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Monica Lennon

It was ESS—Environment, Environmental—oh no, now I have got it wrong! [Laughter.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Appointment of the Scottish Land Commissioners and the Tenant Farming Commissioner

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Monica Lennon

It sounds like there will be a good handover, which is reassuring.

As far as your approach is concerned, I take it from what you have said that you are quite open-minded about what would work in practice.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Monica Lennon

I will try to keep it simple. I was interested in Mark Ruskell’s line of questioning, particularly around EU alignment. I would be interested to know whether the Scottish Government has had discussions with, or taken advice from, Environmental Standards Scotland in relation to these matters.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Monica Lennon

Yes, it is Environmental Standards Scotland. There are so many acronyms.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Monica Lennon

You have explained that distinction well. However, as we know, things sometimes move at a fast pace. A lot has happened in the EU space on nature and environmental protection—one example is ecocide law. I shamelessly plug my intention for a member’s bill on that. ESS has been a useful advisory body for the committee.

Deputy First Minister, I understand that you do not want to reach into other colleagues’ portfolios, but the EIA regime is of national interest—Scotland’s marine environment is a crucial part of our biodiversity, and how well those systems operate has an impact on our economy. I was interested to hear that you—I do not want to put words in your mouth—seemed to be defending the status quo, if I picked you up right. You seemed to be saying that the EIA process is well understood and that people know what they are getting.

I am interested to hear what discussions the Government is having about where potential improvements could be made. It was interesting to read the commentary on the situation in England, in which practitioners and communities have identified some of the shortcomings of the current regime. There are concerns that the data is not always complete and robust, and that the non-technical summaries are not always easy for communities to understand. If there are opportunities to inject some clarity and improve confidence, would the Government be open to that? Where do you see potential improvements being made?