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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Monica Lennon

You say that you are ready to meet them. Are you talking about this week? Do you have availability this week?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Monica Lennon

I always worry when the convener is quiet—but thank you, convener.

I will follow on from the deputy convener’s questions about the evidence that Scottish Water gave the committee in October 2023 about CSOs and dry spills, and pollution impacts. At that time, when I put questions to you, Alex, you said that media coverage around the issue was “misleading” and that there were a number of inaccuracies. I asked whether Scottish Water was

“planning to take any legal action in that regard”,

because it is obviously very serious if people are making wrong allegations about Scottish Water. In response, you told the committee:

“We are not planning to take legal action, at this stage.”—[Official Report, Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee, 31 October 2023; c 18.]

Can you give an update on that? Did you take any legal action?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Monica Lennon

You are aware that there is a problem because, yet again, the workers are out on strike. You, personally, have not met anyone from the unions in relation to the pay deal, and there is now reputational damage to Scottish Water because, as an employer, you are now being framed as anti-union. When you were previously before the committee, I asked you about fair work principles, and you told the committee that you absolutely honour them; however, you do not meet the unions, and the senior management team sends anti-union emails. You tell us and the unions that you are happy to meet, but you have not managed to meet. Why is that not a priority for you, as chief executive?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Monica Lennon

Please hold on just a second, because I am not finished. It is important that I ask you as chief executive about this. As a member of this Parliament and a Central Scotland representative, I would much prefer people to be at their work.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Monica Lennon

Okay, so you recognise that additional guidance is perhaps required.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Monica Lennon

Is there still work to be done on having a clear plan to address that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Monica Lennon

I will press you a little bit more on that. Although I appreciate there are a lot of different moving parts, particularly in relation to EU alignment, I would like to get a bit more clarity about when the recommendation, which dates back to 2016, will be implemented.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Monica Lennon

It is important to get clarity on that. We know that some local authorities have queried it and asked how the new approach would interact with their role in dealing with odour nuisance complaints. For example, East Ayrshire Council has suggested that revised guidance should be provided to clarify roles. There are definitely questions about the interaction between SEPA and local authorities in relation to statutory nuisance complaints.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Monica Lennon

I still have questions, convener. I want to ask about environmental governance, if that is okay.

One of ESS’s analytical priorities is environmental governance. Earlier in your opening statement, Dr Dixon, you referred to the Scottish Government’s governance review. You used the word “lacklustre”, so I am keen to hear more about your thinking on that.

I am also keen to know what work ESS is doing, or is planning to do, around Aarhus compliance. My understanding is that, because we do not have access to an environmental court or tribunal, because we have unequal rights of appeal in relation to our planning system and because the costs around access to justice in environmental matters are very prohibitive, people feel that they do not have routes to environmental justice. You said that what the Government is doing there is lacklustre, but what more is ESS doing to try to get some progress and compliance?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Environmental Standards Scotland (Annual Report and Accounts 2023-24 and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Monica Lennon

Do you think that the Scottish Government is failing to understand that?