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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

That is very helpful to get us started. Perhaps Ailsa Raeburn can add to that, or share some different thoughts.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

In the interests of time, I will hand back to the convener. I would love to ask questions about food waste and procurement, which Lorna Jarvie mentioned, but another colleague might pick that up, and I might be able to come back in later if there is time.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Before that, I want to go back to something. We are hearing about lots of examples of good practice across the public sector, but there is frustration that they are not being scaled up. I am thinking about the innovation question. There will be some really good stuff out there. How can we unlock the opportunity to scale that up? Maybe your colleague can pick up the innovation part of the question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Good morning to all our witnesses. My interest today is in waste and the role of public bodies in Scotland’s journey to a fully circular economy. How do public procurement practices need to develop to achieve a circular economy, and how well is that work being co-ordinated across the public sector? Where is innovation happening, and what do you see as the main challenges?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Again, that is helpful. I put the same question to Mark McRitchie.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Yes, that is correct.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

It sounds as though there might not be enough clarity at this point. Making the transition to a circular economy is a really important mission for all of us.

Let us stick with procurement, which is a specialist area. I apologise that we did not get your document in time, because of the recent information technology problems. What are some of the barriers and challenges around procurement? I heard, for example, that some local suppliers who provide goods on a leasing basis and who can refurbish goods often find that they cannot supply the public sector because of the way in which budgets are measured, so local authorities and the public sector end up buying things brand new, which might sometimes be the right approach but is not always. Are those the kinds of conversations that take place? How does that feed up to the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities or the Scottish Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

That is very helpful, Mark.

I have a supplementary question for Ailsa Raeburn. You talked about the fact that it can be more difficult for larger councils to get engagement right. I doubt that we will change the size of our local authorities overnight, so what advice do you have for them? What would you like them to do differently?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Yes, we could move on to Philip Revell and perhaps come back to Ailsa if she reconnects.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 18 January 2022

Monica Lennon

Sorry, convener—I am getting a message on my screen as I have had to reconnect. I missed the past five minutes as I had some IT problems; I apologise for that.

I want to pick up on the theme of waste management and the role of public bodies in Scotland in the journey to a circular economy. I will ask our second panel of witnesses specifically about the role of communities. How well are local authorities involving communities in the full agenda? We heard some frustrations from witnesses on the previous panel about resources and some aspects of engagement. I am interested to hear what the main challenges and opportunities are. Perhaps Philip Revell can start.