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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Monica Lennon

I have a question about the Scottish National Investment Bank—Louise or Andrew can indicate whether they are best placed to answer. It would be good if Stephen Smellie could follow up in writing to the committee because, last year, Unison published a report on decarbonising the public sector, and I am keen to hear what engagement has taken place with COSLA, the Accounts Commission and others on that report.

We have not heard about the role of the investment bank today. Can anyone speak to that point briefly?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Monica Lennon

When I asked the question, I was making the assumption that everyone working in local government is part of the mission to reach net zero goals, given that we are trying to mainstream that—it is not just for those who have “green” or “climate” in their job title but is something that we are trying to embed.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Monica Lennon

I have a question on procurement, which has been mentioned already. I come back to the issue of capacity, which we often hear about in broad terms. Stephen Smellie described a very lean model of local government, where we have shed a lot of staff over the years. Are we doing workforce plans across local government? Do we know exactly how many staff we would, in an ideal world, need to have in certain roles?

We talk a lot about workforce planning for the national health service, for example, but we do not always talk in great detail about what local government needs. I will come to Louise Marix Evans first, and then go round the table to find out whether that work is happening. It may be happening in England; perhaps Louise will have some good examples of that. I want to get a sense of what we actually need, and what kind of jobs we should train people for. For example, I am thinking about what Stephen Smellie said about a just transition, and how those agendas are linked.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Monica Lennon

I have one question on procurement. We talked about that a little in the previous session, but we ran out of time. I am keen to hear from all our witnesses on how local authorities are using procurement to make further progress on the net zero goals. Do local authority procurement rules allow for a focus on carbon savings? If there is time, perhaps someone could touch on how that is helping local economies and small businesses. I am not sure who is best to go first, but I see Councillor Macgregor waving, so I will come to her.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Monica Lennon

That was really helpful. I have one final question, but I think that Dr Walton wants to come back briefly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Monica Lennon

Thank you. We are quickly running out of time, so I will hand back to the convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Monica Lennon

Would you like to give any examples of the actions or measures that you have in mind?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Monica Lennon

Thank you.

You mentioned resourcing in the context of marine planning. In terms of resourcing, do you also have in mind skills and workforce? Does more need to be done in that area to make sure that we have the right people, the right training and the right skills for those important jobs?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Monica Lennon

Okay. That is helpful. Craig, do you want to add anything?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Monica Lennon

Thank you for your very clear evidence today and for your written submissions.

On a positive note, RSPB Scotland says in its written submission that the document does a good job of defining the problem. That is a good place to start—no one is in denial, and the Scottish Government has been very clear about the challenges.

It seems to me that we have a very high-level vision document that is aspirational, which is really good. However, we are hearing today a lot of concerns about a lack of clarity around targets, outcomes and delivery. A moment ago, Dr Paul Walton made a point about reframing this as Scotland’s nature emergency strategy rather than a biodiversity strategy. I was going to ask about that, so I am glad that you brought it up. I just want to go quickly round the other witnesses to find out whether they agree. Is it just about the name, or does it have much more meaning than that, bearing in mind some of the risks of not changing our approach, which we have just heard about?

Perhaps Bruce Wilson can start, and I will then go along the table. Should we rename the strategy?

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