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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

Thank you. There is a lot there that colleagues will return to. I will certainly come back with questions on buses.

On issue of safety in the local context—I will leave trunk roads aside for now—we all represent communities that have concerns. You mentioned funding, cabinet secretary. I can think of local examples in Lanarkshire—the convener will be pleased that I will not go into all the detail—where communities are frustrated that, although they raise concerns about accidents and what they would call near misses, they are often told that the road is not as dangerous as other roads or that decisions are made outwith the local authority. There may be a role for Safety Camera Scotland there. Is it about funding? Is it about attitude to risk?

You mentioned driver behaviour, and it is good to hear that more is being done on education and on advertising. However, communities are worried right now, and people who are taking their kids to school in the morning or older people who do not feel confident going out hear from their local authority or the police that other roads are more dangerous and that there is nothing to worry about. What can you say to reassure those communities?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

I would like to ask questions about bus use. Although I might not go into the detail that the convener has tried to get into with some of the trains stats, by every measure that I have seen, there is a substantial long-term decline in bus use, whether that is in relation to patronage, mileage or the number of services that we have.

I know that you might want to reflect on the pandemic experience—indeed, we are seeing a slight return to pre-pandemic levels—but I was quite struck to read that bus use peaked around 2007-08 and that it is down by about 31 per cent since then. Why is that the case? What analysis has the Scottish Government done to look at that trend, which looks like a substantial long-term decline?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

No, I said that there has been a six-year delay in delivering the guidance—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

To be clear, I do not think that the campaigners I mentioned are criticising SPT; they have welcomed the recent progress. I think that I will hand back to you, convener, because the cabinet secretary and I have different perspectives today. However, finally—I know that Mark Ruskell covered this in his questions, but for absolute clarity—when will the statutory guidance be published? Can we get a date, please?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

The key thing is that we want to see the franchising being implemented right now. Some progress has been made, but it still has not become a reality, so the dates are important.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

Let me turn back to more strategic matters. The second strategic transport projects review identified a series of major public transport projects as investment priorities, including the Glasgow metro, Aberdeen rapid transit and a south-east Scotland mass transit system. Will you give us an update on how the Scottish Government is supporting the development of those projects, and is the Government committed to funding their construction?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

Are you happy with the progress that is being made? You said that some of the projects are quite a long way off.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

Are you happy with the pace?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

I understand that. I just wondered whether you are happy with the pace of progress.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Monica Lennon

We are seeing a decline in the number of bus services. The committee has talked previously about bus deserts, which are parts of the country where there are no longer buses that are accessible or easy for people to use. What is driving that reduction in the availability of bus services? Is the number of bus services going down because there has been a decline in patronage, or is patronage going down because there are no bus services? What deep analysis has been done of that?