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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

It is not about a personal passion of mine; it is about the perception out there in the country. There are many people, particularly women and girls and marginalised people, who do not feel safe on the bus. What I am getting at with the message of zero tolerance is not about us just talking about it in rooms such as this; it is about how the Government gets that message out there. With all the partners that you work with, minister, how will you get it out there loudly and clearly?

We have to deal with the instrument that is in front of us. I have sat in rooms in the Parliament with the minister, cross-party colleagues, bus operators and the police when there has been a genuine request to the minister to act in an urgent manner. Sadly, I do not think that we have seen that today, but we are where we are.

I want to ask about the right to review. If someone who has been told that they can no longer have their bus pass because of their conduct can ask for a review or an appeal, what criteria will Transport Scotland look at? In what situation could someone who is a violent killer or someone who has sexually assaulted women and girls on a bus be successful with that appeal?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

I will hand back to the convener, but it is unfortunate that the minister has been extremely vague. We are designing a process that could allow for any number of outcomes. I am asking the minister not to get drawn into individual cases, but whether it is his intention that someone who has committed a serious crime on a bus or has displayed antisocial behaviour could retain their right to use their bus pass. He cannot rule that out. I feel that it is a straightforward question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

I will support the order today, because I recognise the broad aims that the minister has set out. I would have liked to hear more clarity about how the order will work operationally and what criteria will be considered for reviews or appeals. We got there towards the end, but I am disappointed by the missed opportunity to take further action. It sounds as if the issue should have been discussed more closely with the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs, who the minister is to meet.

We have heard about what could happen in the next parliamentary session, but the issues have been discussed in the Parliament over the past couple of years, with strong interest from different parties and from lots of stakeholders. I feel that lots of victims and families will feel disappointed today.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

I hope that I have been clear with the committee and the minister that I will support the order today, because it is the option that is in front of us and to delay action on it would not be the right thing to do. However, for the benefit of the record, I am saying that the Government has missed the opportunity to take more robust action to address the issues that Douglas Lumsden raised.

I will not go into individual cases, but I have put to the minister today that, where it is very clear that individuals have perpetrated extreme violence or sexual assault on a bus, they should not be allowed the privilege of a free bus pass. I think that it is within the gift of the Scottish Government to have such a view, to state such a position, to take legal advice and to work across Government to get the right people around the table. I also feel that the meeting with the justice secretary has come a bit late in the process.

I will vote for the motion today, but I would have preferred to see a much more robust package of measures from the Government to target these most serious crimes, so that, where they are committed, the victims and the survivors can see that Government is respectful of their feelings.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

I think that your official is nodding in agreement with you. That is a clear answer, so I thank you, minister.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

I will wait.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

That is helpful. I am just trying to understand the role of NatureScot in all of this, because it sounds as though there might be some joint working and a need for good communication, record keeping and data.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

NatureScot (Annual Report and Accounts and Future Priorities)

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

There is that long-term approach. Pete, do you want to comment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

So—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 February 2026

Monica Lennon

This is an interesting place to start. The £4 million is effectively the cost of running the scheme, so that people can have their concessionary travel cards. Will that cover staffing costs?