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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

We have time for one final question, and I am going to award it to the deputy convener.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. Other committee members want to come in, so I will bring in Graham Simpson for one quick question before I turn to the deputy convener.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

If I were to go to a local authority in the area that I represent, would I find that it had already mapped local resources and produced an overview of the third, public and private sectors?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Can I go back to the report? It identifies an insufficiency when it comes to carrying out equalities and human rights impact assessments. It says that there should be more of them and that it should be systematic. It does not appear to be systematic, so are you, as the Scottish Government, providing any leadership to public bodies on that? I am not asking whether you are telling bodies generally that they ought to do those assessments—are you driving it and embedding it in the digital strategies that have been adopted by public bodies across Scotland?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Have you issued guidance to health boards, Scottish Enterprise and all the other public bodies that you have oversight of?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Before I bring in the deputy convener, I will go back to Lesley Fraser. Lesley, the section in the report on building digital inclusion considerations into strategies and design for digital services says that all public bodies should

“carry out equality and human rights impact assessments”.

Do you accept that recommendation?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. One of the recommendations is that councils

“should map out local resources and assets across the public, private and third sectors, and provide clear routes to digital support and accessible information”.

Does COSLA accept that recommendation? Are individual local authorities pursuing that?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. Mr Wallace, does COSLA accept the findings and recommendations in this report?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

I want to clarify that. The report came out in August, it will be November tomorrow, and the group has not met to discuss the report that you are giving evidence on this morning.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Let us not deal with generalities, then; let us deal with specifics. In paragraphs 35 and 36 of the report—I remind you that it was published just in August of this year, so it is quite recent—it says:

“The joint digital strategy lacks a clear plan and accountability and is now to be refreshed amidst difficult public finances”.

It continues:

“The Scottish Government and COSLA joint strategy lacks a delivery plan that sets out the detailed actions that are needed, who is responsible for them, and timescales or monitoring arrangements.”

How do you respond to that?