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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Richard Leonard

We have had a long and detailed session. There are areas that we would ask you to clarify for us, Auditor General, and it is pretty clear that there are some outstanding questions that we should direct not at you but at the Scottish Government, so we will have to consider how we can best do that.

Thank you very much, Auditor General, Helen Russell and Carole Grant, for your willingness to give us such comprehensive evidence this morning. It is greatly appreciated.

I close the public part of the session and move the committee into private session.

10:58 Meeting continued in private until 11:24.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Richard Leonard

Item 3 is consideration of the 2023-24 audit of the Scottish Government’s consolidated accounts. I am pleased to welcome the Auditor General for Scotland, Stephen Boyle. He is joined by Carole Grant, who is audit director, and Helen Russell, who is senior audit manager, at Audit Scotland.

Auditor General, we have quite a number of questions to put to you this morning. However, before we get to those, I invite you to make a short opening statement.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Sorry—and this will be my final question—but are you saying that, if we were to send freedom of information requests to public bodies in Scotland or write to them as the Public Audit Committee of the Scottish Parliament to ask them to send us their equality and human rights impact assessment regarding their digital strategies or the roll-out of digitalisation in areas of public service delivery, they would be able to send them back?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Is each of the 32 local authorities in Scotland carrying out that recommendation and doing that mapping work?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Martyn Wallace, do you accept the finding in the joint report from the Accounts Commission and the Auditor General that

“the Local Government Digital Office, the delivery body for the Local Government Digital Partnership, does not include tackling digital exclusion as part of its work programme”?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

It was postponed because of the election.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

Within the first 10 minutes of the meeting, we have already been told a few times that this is complicated, but some of these things are quite simple. Paragraph 37 of the report that we are discussing notes that

“Meetings of key governance groups have been infrequent.”

What is the explanation for that?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

I will bring in the deputy convener, Jamie Greene.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

I am sorry, but I thought that you said earlier that you accept the recommendations and findings.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Richard Leonard

You described Covid-19 as a “shock to the system”. As I read the Auditor General and Accounts Commission report, it says that Covid-19 was a shock to the system that jolted the Government into action and to take steps to try to tackle digital exclusion. However, since the pandemic, those efforts seem to have lost momentum and slowed down and, in the words of the Auditor General, “leadership ... has weakened”.