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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
Before they come in, maybe you could also answer this question. I do not want to labour a technical point, but is your measurement of car use now different from the car kilometre metric? Maybe Alison Irvine can answer that.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you. That is a helpful clarification.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
I will bring in Gail Macgregor in a second. Before I do that, however, I will take you back to my question, which was: do you accept the recommendations and findings of the report? Your answer was yes. I note that the number 1 key message in this report is nothing to do with global trends and where things are and what other people are doing.
The Scottish Government set a target of a 20 per cent reduction in car use by 2030. The Scottish Government declared a climate emergency. In that context, the very first page of the report by Audit Scotland and the Accounts Commission states that the Scottish Government
“does not have a clear plan”
and that there is a
“lack of leadership”
and
“no costed delivery plan or measurable milestones”.
That is a pretty scathing indictment of the Government, is it not? Do you accept that?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
In the evaluation report, you say that car use was measured and the car kilometre metric was used.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
You were—good. Perhaps you can answer the question that we have, then. Was COSLA involved in the setting of the 20 per cent car use reduction target in 2020?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
You certainly do not have to go into it in a lot of detail.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
But more people are also using cars. That is the point, is it not? The balance between public transport use and car use is not moving in the direction of an increased modal shift from the car on to public transport. That is the whole thrust of the report.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
Well, he was talking about the rate of change, was he not? You have analysts here, whom you can bring in at any time to answer any of the committee’s questions, if that would help you to defend your position and give you some evidence to support your views.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
I will now move the meeting into private session.
11:30 Meeting continued in private until 12:31.Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 April 2025
Richard Leonard
Do you accept the findings and recommendations of the report that we are considering?