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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

We will get to those in a minute. I am asking you, as the accountable officer in the Scottish Government, for an overall point of view. Maybe Mr Rhatigan or Mr Cook can address some of these questions—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Agenda item 2 is further consideration of the report, “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”. This morning, we are very pleased to welcome to the committee a number of representatives from both Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Ltd and the Scottish Government to give evidence on the report.

I extend a welcome to our witnesses. David Dishon, is chief financial officer and accountable officer, FMPG, Andrew Miller is chair of the FMPG board, and John Petticrew is interim chief executive, FMPG. From the Scottish Government, we are joined by the director general for economy, Gregor Irwin. Alongside him are Colin Cook, director of economic development, and Dermot Rhatigan, deputy director, strategic commercial assets division.

We have some questions to put to you on the report, but before we get to them, I ask Mr Miller and Mr Irwin to give opening statements, beginning with the director general for economy, Mr Irwin.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you, Mr Irwin. I call Mr Miller.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

It will need to be the final point before I bring the deputy convener in.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

But having been invited to it, and knowing that you were going to publish that information two days after the committee meeting, did you give any consideration to publishing it in advance of the meeting?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

We might invite you back to give oral evidence on those reports when we see them.

I have a couple of other questions to put to you. There are issues with the negotiations that are taking place around, for example, the small vessel replacement programme. Can you update the committee on where those negotiations are and when you expect decisions to be made?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Other members might ask you further questions about that.

Finally, I turn to the aspect of the report—on which we took further evidence from Audit Scotland—about difficulties with the internal audit arrangements.

Mr Miller, you have been saying that you have told Audit Scotland what to put in its report, and that you have volunteered everything, so there is nothing of any revelation to you. Do you think that it is satisfactory that there are criticisms of the internal audit arrangements? The report talks about a number of high-risk and medium-risk areas. Can you elaborate on what they are and tell us what your disposition is on the internal audit arrangements?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

So you accept the findings.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

Good morning, Mr Bruce. During the Finance and Public Administration Committee’s inquiry, there was a very interesting comment from the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman that appeared in the committee’s final report. The ombudsman said:

“We are not doing the job that we think we should be doing because we do not have the right legislative remit.”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 30 April 2024; c 37.]

My question to you is this: do you think that you have the right legislative remit?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

You have surveyed the landscape of other commissions and commissioners. Do you have any sense of whether they have the right framework? Do they have adequate powers, for example?