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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. That is a useful point to conclude proceedings at. There are a number of areas where it might be useful to get a bit more information, if the witnesses are able to supply it.
Thank you very much for your evidence, Auditor General. I also thank Bernie Milligan and Alison Cumming for their input, which has been greatly appreciated.
11:16 Meeting continued in private until 12:20.Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Do you take a view on whether it would be better for those two roles to be decoupled?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much. I move straight on and invite the deputy convener, Jamie Greene, to put some questions.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thanks, Jamie. I invite Colin Beattie to put some questions to you on governance in NHS boards.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
This might be an unfair question, given that you have not attended that session yet. Do you have any sense of what pool those people who aspire to be chairs are drawn from? In other words, are they typically existing members of NHS boards who wish to step up to become chairs of boards or does the net go wider than that?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
It is interesting as to whether the approach should be exclusive in that way or more open. One of the broader questions—I will bring Graham Simpson in shortly—that is raised in your report is the extent to which non-executive board members are properly representative. How many users of NHS services are on those boards? You spoke about a population-based approach to the planning of services and so on. How many older people are members of boards, for example?
It is interesting for us to understand whether the people who are coming through the system—through the Commissioner for Ethical Standards’ net and so on—are truly diverse and representative because, as you say, they have an important role to play in not only scrutinising but challenging the executive team running a health board. Do you get a sense of whether boards fulfil the job that is required of them?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to the 19th meeting in 2025 of the Public Audit Committee. Under agenda item 1, the committee must decide whether to take agenda items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do we agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much for that introduction.
Key message 2 in the report describes
“weaknesses within the scrutiny and assurance processes at the Scottish Government level.”
As an example, you cite the
“combined role of director general for health and social care and the chief executive of NHS Scotland”,
which are titles that are borne by one person. It would be useful for the committee to understand why you believe that that poses a risk. Perhaps you can point to some examples of that presenting a conflict of interest.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
This is the biggest spending department of the Scottish Government, is it not?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Richard Leonard
Is it advertised widely or is it just advertised to that group in quite a targeted way?