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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Turning to Catherine Etri, as the accountable officer, do you agree with Tiffany Ritchie’s point that it is a fundamental part of the Scottish public finance manual that a public sector organisation sets a budget?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Okay—thank you very much.

I am going to move things along now and invite Joe FitzPatrick to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

That is out at midnight tonight, Auditor General, is it not?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Yes. A plan and a strategy would, I presume, reflect the shift in resourcing that has been spoken about for a long time but has not necessarily been delivered.

In the interests of time, I will move on to another area. You said in your opening statement, Auditor General, that, despite more money going into the national health service and more staff being employed by it—you choose as a baseline 2019 and say that there have been additional resources of £3 billion and 20,000 additional staff members in the workforce—sustainability in the health service is not improving. Could you explain that for us?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Alistair Wylie wanted to come in on that point, and perhaps also on an earlier point. Over to you, Alistair—the floor is yours.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Should you not have been aware of that? Did you not have somebody from UHI’s court or a central figure from UHI who was in attendance at meetings of the board of management of Perth College? Is that not the channel through which such communications would be made and awareness would be raised about the budget situation and the lack of a budget?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Thank you—that is very clear.

Alistair Wylie, I am bound to ask you this, because you are now the interim chair of the board of management, but you were, over this period of time, a member of the board. Can you confirm whether you were a member of the board that did not set a budget in 2023-24?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Did it go to a vote, for example? How was that concern expressed?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much indeed. I turn to the Scottish Funding Council and invite Jacqui Brasted to give us an opening statement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Richard Leonard

Okay. Colin Beattie has some questions.