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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Richard Leonard

Good morning, Mr Mathieson and Mr Barron. I apologise for being so late and am sorry that I missed your answers to the earlier questions.

The committee wanted to look at business planning, which was highlighted in the Audit Scotland report. A medium-term financial plan was put together. Where do you stand with that and what steps have you taken to improve the financial situation of the commission?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Richard Leonard

You had my heart beating there. [Laughter.]

The next question is for both witnesses. When I read the report, one of the things that stood out was that there was a failure to properly involve the commission in setting the budget in the year that is under review in the Audit Scotland report. Mr Mathieson, before you became convener of the commission, you were the chair of the commission’s audit and finance committee—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Richard Leonard

I turn to workforce planning, staffing and so on. I want to hear your views on the progress that is being made in planning the commission’s workforce. Again, I accept that the organisation is not huge, but you will, nonetheless, need a workforce plan. Have you reached conclusions about whether the mix of the senior management team is correct, and whether you need additional resources in that area? Perhaps Mr Barron can comment first.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS National Services Scotland”; and “Personal protective equipment”

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Richard Leonard

Thanks, Mr Beattie—that is helpful.

My other question, which is again directed to NSS, is a bit more general. Paragraph 13 of the audit report draws the conclusion that

“NSS is now heavily reliant on non-recurring funding to deliver services”.

We are now a week out from the Scottish Government tabling its budget before Parliament. The Auditor General cautioned:

“Reliance on non-recurring funding limits the ability of NHS NSS to effectively plan and resource future developments.”

Is that funding uncertainty real? Are there areas of your work that you have been forced to deprioritise because of that? What risks are entailed in doing that if that is what you have been required to do?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS National Services Scotland”; and “Personal protective equipment”

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. If time permits, we will revisit some of those questions on the funding of NSS.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS National Services Scotland”; and “Personal protective equipment”

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Richard Leonard

I see Gordon Beattie volunteering again.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

There is a broader discussion there about the extent to which we have any participatory democracy beyond participatory budgets in local authorities. What is the engagement on that broader spectrum? As Anna Fowlie has said, it is not just about local government. What is the rest of the public sector doing about community empowerment? Those are strong themes that have come out of the session so far.

We are now into the final part of the session. I invite Craig Hoy to ask a few questions and steer us through the final section.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Thanks, Pippa. That is helpful. I will come back in a moment to a couple of the points that you made, but first I will bring in Ryan Smart before I ask Euan Ritchie to give his perspective from the regeneration forum.

As was mentioned earlier, Ryan, you were the lead person in one of the projects that was a case study in the report. What is your take on how things have been and on what you saw emerging?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

We have just a few minutes left. One of our members—Willie Coffey—is joining us virtually this morning. I am keen to bring him in, as I know that he has some questions and reflections on this morning’s conversation. You will probably get the final word this morning, Willie.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Of course it is. I ask Ryan Smart to start.