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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

That is helpful. I will go to Pippa Coutts before I ask Ryan Smart to give his thoughts. Euan Leitch wants to come in as well.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Euan, I ask you to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about your organisation.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Ryan, do you want to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about the organisation that you are involved with?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Pippa, I invite you to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about the organisation that you work for.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the ninth meeting of the Public Audit Committee in the sixth session of the Parliament. Before we begin, I remind members, witnesses and members of staff that the Parliament’s social distancing rules are in force. If you are moving around, leaving or entering the room, please wear a face covering.

Our first item of business is to agree to take items 3 and 4 in private. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

David, do you want to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about the organisation that you represent?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

I am conscious of time and I want to move things on a bit. We are exploring some important areas and we want to hear about your experiences and views, as well as any lessons that can be drawn from what has been happening. Colin Beattie has a series of questions on that.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you; that is a very useful introduction to our conversation. I know that Anna Fowlie and Pippa Coutts want to come in. Ryan Smart was mentioned by David, so I will bring him in whether he likes it or not. I go to Anna first.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

That makes perfect sense. We will return to some of those themes as the morning goes on.

I want to bring in Euan Leitch from SURF, to give us his perspective on some of the challenges and how they have been risen to.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

I think that that will be a recurring theme in our discussions this morning. Pippa Coutts talked about whether, and the extent to which, there has been a shift in control and power, and a decentralisation. Has there been a shift to greater community empowerment? If so, is that—or has it been—temporary, or is it permanent? That is of interest to us.

We are the Public Audit Committee, and I want to ask the Auditor General to give us his view, not least because it is important that we cover the extent to which there has been an evaluation of the experience; the extent to which things have been measured; the extent to which any good practice has been disseminated; and the extent to which the lessons that have been learned as we have gone along have been embedded into the way that we will look at things in the future.

Perhaps you can give us a general view, Auditor General, and do your best to help us to understand the extent to which there has been an evaluation of the times that we have been living through in the context of the community empowerment agenda.