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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

We will put the points to NRS when it comes before us. Willie Coffey joins us remotely and has a number of questions to put.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

I invite Craig Hoy to ask some questions.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

Are you saying that you are satisfied about where things are with the ICT programme in relation to the skill sets that are required to oversee and run it, and its operational implementation?

The census that England and Wales carried out was, for the first time, a digital-first census. In Scotland, are we at a stage at which we could carry out that digital-first assessment, or are there still deficiencies or inadequacies?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

You mentioned the options appraisal. All that I have seen in the public domain is two sides of A4. Has Audit Scotland had access to what would presumably be a much more detailed analysis that was put to the census programme board or the board of NRS? Have you had access to a more detailed report and would the committee be able to get access to that?

09:15  

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

Sharon Dowey has a number of questions that follow up on the lines of questioning that Willie Coffey pursued.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

Dharshi Santhakumaran wants to give us a bit more detail.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

We cannot hear you at the moment, Mr Samson. We will try to fix that. I am afraid that you might have to start again. [Interruption.] No, we are still not able to hear you.

Craig, do you want to press on with a supplementary, or do you want to move to your next question? Perhaps the Auditor General wants to come back in.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

I apologise to Graeme Samson. We are not sure whether the problem is at our end or at his, but we cannot hear him.

The Auditor General’s undertaking to provide us with written evidence, which I suspect Mr Samson might be asked to write, is useful. I apologise to Mr Samson for being unable to hear him.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much.

I thank Graeme Samson—I am sorry that we were unable to hear you—Asif Haseeb and Dharshi Santhakumaran for joining us online. We very much appreciate your time and contributions this morning. I also thank, as always, the Auditor General, who joined us in person.

10:13 Meeting continued in private until 11:35.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Richard Leonard

It would be useful for us to have access to that more detailed work.