The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 20 January 2022
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the second meeting in 2022 of the Public Audit Committee.
The first item on our agenda is to decide whether to take agenda items 4 and 5 in private. I assume that all members agree to do so, unless any member indicates otherwise. Does any member object to taking agenda items 4 and 5 in private?
I see no objections, so that is agreed.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 20 January 2022
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much, Paul. If you want members of your team to field any of the questions, please let us know who the appropriate person is. If members of your team want to come in, they should type R in the chat function to make sure that I call them.
I will give a bit of context to this morning’s session. A section 22 report by Audit Scotland is quite a serious matter; it happens when alarm bells have been or still are ringing. This morning, we want to probe a little into the journey that you have been on and to consider how things look over the next few weeks because, as you said, the census has still to be delivered.
I will start by reflecting on the second paragraph of the Audit Scotland report, which contains this note from the Auditor General:
“I have prepared this report to draw the Scottish Parliament’s attention to the challenges facing NRS in the delivery of the census programme. This includes the significant impact the decision to delay the census until March 2022 has had on NRS’s costs. There are also ongoing risks to delivery of the programme, including resourcing and financial pressures, which NRS will need to continue to manage so that the census can be delivered successfully in line with the revised budget and timetable.”
Committee members will return to those themes over the next hour.
I want to reflect on the evidence session that we had with the Auditor General on 9 December 2021. You might have seen that one of the issues that were brought to our attention was that an options appraisal report led you, through evidence, I presume, to the decision—or the recommendation to ministers for their decision—to postpone the census for a year. That was a very big decision to make. We asked the Audit Scotland representatives whether they had had sight of the options appraisal report. They might have had sight of it, but they were not in a position to offer it to us. Would it be possible for the committee to see the full options appraisal report?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 20 January 2022
Richard Leonard
I am sorry to interrupt, but I want to check something. We were told in the evidence session with Audit Scotland that you were now planning to access some of those data sharing sources. Are you saying that you have not done that or that you have no legal basis for doing it, and that it is not happening?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 20 January 2022
Richard Leonard
Thank you for clearing that up.
I must ask you to try to keep your answers a little briefer. I suspect that you will be able to do that in the forthcoming sections. Again, please feel free to bring in members of your team if you think that they can add useful evidence to the gathering of information that we are embarked on.
I invite Craig Hoy to ask a number of questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2022
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everybody to the first meeting in 2022 of the Public Audit Committee.
The first item on our agenda is consideration of whether to take in private agenda items 4 and 5. My working assumption is that everybody will agree to do that, but if anybody disagrees, please indicate that by raising your hand.
I do not see any raised hands, so the committee agrees to take in private items 4 and 5.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2022
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much for that opening statement, Stephen. As you will understand, we have a number of questions on everything from the implications of the Sturrock report and the progress that has been made in addressing the issues identified in it to the funding formula and the recurring challenges faced by a health board that is operating in the most rural part of Scotland and delivering services that need to be accessible, as far as possible, to the population that it serves.
I will start by turning to paragraph 14, which is on page 5 of the report. It reminds us that NHS Highland moved down from level 4 to level 3 in the escalation framework. At face value, that is a positive development. Will you summarise the improvements that have been made, as you understand it, which have led to the de-escalation of the health board’s status? In so doing, will you give any assessment that you have of whether the board is moving in the direction of going down from level 3 to level 2? Are there still bigger challenges to overcome? I ask Stephen Boyle to open up on the evidence on that.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2022
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much for the opening statement. I have a couple of questions to ask, before I invite questions from other members of the committee.
It is worth recapping where things were back in 2018-19. The conclusions of the 2018-19 report spoke about
“ineffective leadership, inadequate workforce planning, a lack of clarity over roles and responsibilities and poor relationships and organisational culture”,
which existed to such an extent that, in giving evidence to the Public Audit Committee’s predecessor committee, the auditor said:
“In terms of the findings and recommendations, I cannot think of another report that has raised such serious issues during my time in this role.”—[Official Report, Public Audit and Post-legislative Scrutiny Committee, 16 January 2020; c 21.]
That is a pretty damning indictment of how things were.
When we turn to the report that has just been published, we see that there appears to have been a considerable turnaround. My first question is this: what has been the catalyst for such a transformative difference in the organisation?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2022
Richard Leonard
Openness and transparency were previously identified as issues back in 2018-19, so that is a continuing area of interest for us.
My final question goes back to the 72 actions that came out of the recommendations, which the Auditor General mentioned. Of the 72, 71 have been implemented. However, the nature of the beast that is the Public Audit Committee being what it is, I want to ask about the 72nd action, which has not so far been implemented. Can someone explain why there has been a hold-up with it? Is it simply a matter of timing; is it contingent on other issues? What is the reason? I ask so that we have a better understanding of the outstanding action.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2022
Richard Leonard
We have more questions on engagement, which will come up later in the evidence session. Colin Beattie has questions about board scrutiny.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 13 January 2022
Richard Leonard
We want to further interrogate the board’s financial position in terms of not only its management but its sustainability.