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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Well, he was talking about the rate of change, was he not? You have analysts here, whom you can bring in at any time to answer any of the committee’s questions, if that would help you to defend your position and give you some evidence to support your views.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

I will now move the meeting into private session.

11:30 Meeting continued in private until 12:31.  

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Do you accept the findings and recommendations of the report that we are considering?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes—and you can rest assured that everything will be in miles, not kilometres.

I would like to reflect on the answers that you have given to Graham Simpson. Back on 26 February, when the Auditor General was sat in the seat that you are sitting in this morning, he said:

“The rate of change suggests that we are moving away from delivering the target rather than moving closer to it.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 26 February 2025; c 3.]

Do you also disagree with his conclusion as far as that is concerned?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

But that is the target, is it not? That is what the 20 per cent target is based on.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes—thank you very much. That is helpful. We will bring in the Transport Scotland representatives shortly.

Before I bring in Graham Simpson, I want to ask you about one area in the report. We have had exchanges about this before, cabinet secretary—it is about the peak fares experiment pilot. In case study 1 in the report, the Auditor General and the Accounts Commission specifically make the point that the evaluation conducted by Transport Scotland of the removal of the pilot on peak fares on the railways suggested that no consideration was given to the impact on car use of the removal of that pilot. Why on earth would that be?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

As two committee members still have questions to put to you, we will try to speed things up slightly. I invite Stuart McMillan to put his questions.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Just for the record, I think that there has been only one Secretary of State for Scotland since the election but two Secretaries of State for Transport.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Richard Leonard

I would like to understand the distinction between a body that is an autonomous Crown entity and one that is an independent Crown entity. You mentioned the Retirement Commissioner and the Children and Young People’s Commission. The Retirement Commissioner is classified as an autonomous Crown entity, whereas the Children and Young People’s Commission is classified as an independent Crown entity. What is the difference between those two categorisations?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. You mentioned earlier that some of the bodies have powers of enforcement. Can you give us an example of one of the Crown entities that has enforcement powers?