The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
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There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
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You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
My final question is on the leadership of the Scottish National Investment Bank. Al Denholm recently announced that he plans to step down, and Eilidh Mactaggart was formerly the chief executive officer; so, in year 5 of the bank, it will have its third permanent chief executive. I think that there was also an interim chief executive—the finance officer stepped up for a period. That is a high turnover, is it not, in the leadership of what is a quite new institution. Do you have any comments on that?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
I am sure that we will continue to keep a close eye on that.
Your evidence this morning has been very helpful for us. I thank Kirsty Ridd, Catherine Young and Cornilius Chikwama, and I thank you, Auditor General, for leading on the evidence this morning.
11:27 Meeting continued in private until 11:39.Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
I will move on to what is, in my view, a more positive investment—it has been referred to a couple of times already—which is the investment in a construction company that was building housing in Shetland. In the report, you mention the fact that one of the attractions of that investment, albeit that it was below the normal threshold for investments, was that the company was converting to being an employee-owned business. Again, is the ownership structure and the way in which a business is put together a factor in determining where investment is placed?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
Thanks a lot. That is absolutely fine. I am conscious of the time, but we have one final line of questioning, which is going to be prosecuted by Graham Simpson.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
Thanks for clearing that up. I invite Stuart McMillan to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
Agenda item 2 is consideration of the Auditor General for Scotland’s performance audit of the Scottish National Investment Bank. I am pleased to welcome our witnesses. We are joined by the Auditor General for Scotland, Stephen Boyle—good morning. Alongside the Auditor General, from Audit Scotland, are Cornilius Chikwama, audit director; Catherine Young, a senior manager; and Kirsty Ridd, an audit manager.
Before we get to our questions, Auditor General, I invite you to make an opening statement.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 17th meeting in 2025 of the Public Audit Committee. Under agenda item 1, does the committee agree to take agenda items 3 and 4 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
Can I follow on from that? At paragraph 91 of the report, you give a very precise figure. You say that
“92.3 per cent of ... direct investees”
are small and medium-sized enterprises. Whose figure is that, and how is it derived?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
The starting point is that, in your report, you quote a figure that you say is an echo of a Scottish National Investment Bank figure, which shows that 92.3 per cent of investees are SMEs. I am challenging that as a likely reliable figure.
There is another point with regard to the Gresham House Forestry Fund. When the investment was first announced in August 2021, I went on to the fund’s website to look at how it positioned itself as a business and saw that it was, largely, selling forestry investment as a way of avoiding paying inheritance tax and capital gains tax. Is any kind of ethical filter applied to these investment decisions?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Richard Leonard
I think that probably quite a number of us might feel that an organisation whose raison d’être seems to be to help its clients to avoid paying tax should not necessarily be benefiting from public funding to aid its venture. I am not talking about individual directors’ conflicts of interest—I am talking about a conflict of interest between the organisation and its purpose and its resorting to the use of public funds.
Before I move on to something else, another point about the Gresham House Forestry Fund—which is of note, is it not?—is that the bank says that 60 per cent of its investments will be in Scotland. Presumably, therefore, I would deduce that at least 40 per cent are going to be investments elsewhere. I think that that means investments elsewhere in the UK, to be fair, but they are not going to be in Scotland. Is that not subject to some kind of evaluation when decisions have been made about where investments are being placed?