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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

The roll call of NHS boards that are in a very tricky financial position includes small boards such as NHS Orkney but also NHS Fife, NHS Ayrshire and Arran, NHS Borders, NHS Dumfries and Galloway and NHS Highland, which I mentioned earlier. It is a substantial issue.

You mentioned that the funding formula was being reviewed, presumably to appreciate whether funds are being distributed as effectively, efficiently and equally as they ought to be. The committee’s understanding is that dates have not been set for the completion or implementation of the review. Are you any the wiser as to when there are likely to be changes, what those changes might be, what criteria are driving the review of the funding formula and, potentially, the allocation of funding between different territorial boards, as well as between different NHS tiers?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

As I mentioned, Willie Coffey has a series of questions to ask.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. David Pirie will be with us for the rest of the session, but on audio only.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

Wow—that is quite a stark conclusion to draw, isn’t it?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

I think that the power has been restored, Auditor General, so I will bring you back in. You were telling us about the findings and the evidence that you had looked at in the area of staff wellbeing and about the surveys that organisations such as the Royal College of Nursing had carried out on the views of its members.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

I want to take you back to the point about GPs. I am at a bit of a loss to understand why the issue is so problematic. Are GPs saying, “We’re so busy getting on with it that we don’t have time to record these things”? Are health boards asking them to do that? Are GPs saying, “We are independent organisations and we make our own determinations about what our priorities are”? Is the issue at the health board level? Why is there such a long-standing problem in finding out that information?

Given that, at the moment, GPs are defending their position and are often under attack because people feel that they are not getting access to them, it seems to me that, if GPs were able to demonstrate with evidence the extent to which they are meeting patient demand, that would serve their cause better, rather than there being a complete absence of data.

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

Good morning and welcome to the ninth meeting in 2022 of the Public Audit Committee. Before we begin, I remind members, witnesses and staff who are present that social distancing rules apply in the Parliament, and that they should wear face coverings when entering, leaving or moving around the committee room.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take items 4, 5 and 6 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much, particularly for that very helpful clarification. Indeed, Willie Coffey will be asking questions on that particular subject later in the meeting.

Sharon Dowey, who, as I said earlier, is joining us via videolink, has a couple of questions to start us off.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

Agenda item 3 is a discussion of the Audit Scotland report “NHS in Scotland 2021”. I am delighted to say that we are joined in the room by the Auditor General for Scotland, Stephen Boyle—welcome, Auditor General. Alongside him, we have Leigh Johnston, senior manager and Derek Hoy, audit manager, Audit Scotland. Eva Thomas-Tudo had hoped to be with us, but unfortunately she is not able to attend.

I invite the Auditor General to make an opening statement, after which we will ask what is quite a wide range of questions.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

I read in the report that a short-life working group is being established. Again, is that sufficient to properly monitor the impact of the measures?