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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
There is no evidence of jiggery-pokery. I am glad to hear it.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Agenda item 2 is consideration of the report produced by Audit Scotland into the criminal courts backlog. I welcome to the committee Stephen Boyle, Auditor General for Scotland, who is joined by Mark Taylor, audit director and Lynsey Davies, audit manager, both from Audit Scotland.
As usual, Auditor General, we have a number of questions that we would like to put to you. However, before we do that, I invite you to make a short opening statement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
I will bring you back in later.
I call Craig Hoy to put some questions to the witnesses.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
The report addresses the response during the pandemic and the lockdown, and all the restrictions that were in place at that time. Willie Coffey has a series of questions on that, but I will ask one before I turn to him.
One of the things that happened during that time was that the sheriff court system was consolidated into 10 hub centres and the JP courts were also incorporated into that. We had 10 hubs and they were asked to consider essential business. Could you tell us how essential business was defined?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you; that statement set the scene very well. You mention at the start of the report that you have a plan to monitor progress against the report’s recommendations. Can you tell us a little bit more about how you plan to do that monitoring work?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you. I turn to Willie Coffey, who has more questions on the Covid response.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
We see a lot of your reports and I thought that it was interesting that your recommendations in this one are aligned with timetables. You have got things that you expect to happen within three to six months, over the next 12 months and then over the next 12 to 18 months, and I think that that is a useful way of addressing some of the challenges that you have identified. It seems to me to be quite innovative and very useful.
Have you agreed those timescales with the Scottish Government and the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Good morning. Welcome to the 17th meeting of the Public Audit Committee in 2023. We have apologies from Colin Beattie.
The first item on our agenda is to agree—or not—to take agenda items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do we agree to do so?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
I will bring Willie Coffey back in now because he has more questions about some of the innovations that were developed during the course of the pandemic.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 8 June 2023
Richard Leonard
One of the issues that you have alluded to, and which jumped out at me from the report, was what you describe as a failure to consistently apply equality impact assessments. You have mentioned the recover, renew, transform advisory group, which I think you said included organisations such as Rape Crisis Scotland and Victim Support Scotland. Why were they not involved in equality impact assessment work? Was such work simply not carried out at all?