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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Good morning, and welcome back. Agenda item 3 is consideration of the Auditor General’s report “NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”. I am pleased to welcome to the committee Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General, to give evidence on the report. This morning, he is joined by Leigh Johnston, senior manager at Audit Scotland, and Bernie Milligan, audit manager at Audit Scotland.
We have some questions to put to you, but before we get to them, Auditor General, I invite you to make an opening statement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Thank you. Other members of the committee will get into some of those areas in a bit more depth, so I will avoid stepping on their toes and making myself unpopular by moving on and inviting Jamie Greene, the deputy convener, to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Okay, but you were in attendance at a board of management meeting on 23 October 2024. The minute on page 8 reads:
“Board Member expressed concern at how quickly the position has moved for the worse since the June Board passed the savings plan, and would not be comfortable passing a Budget”.
As recently as October 2024, at a meeting that you attended, people on the board were expressing that view.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Thank you—that is very clear.
Alistair Wylie, I am bound to ask you this, because you are now the interim chair of the board of management, but you were, over this period of time, a member of the board. Can you confirm whether you were a member of the board that did not set a budget in 2023-24?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Did it go to a vote, for example? How was that concern expressed?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Graham, I am not sure that the panel can answer that question.
I will move things along and invite the deputy convener to put some questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Okay. Colin Beattie has some questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. I turn to the Scottish Funding Council and invite Jacqui Brasted to give us an opening statement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Thank you for your succinctness. Jacqui Brasted, do you accept the findings?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the first meeting in 2026 of the Public Audit Committee.
Item 1 is for the committee to decide whether to take items 4, 5, 6 and 7 in private. Do members agree to do so?
Members indicated agreement.