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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Richard Leonard

Okay. Our time is limited, so I want to move on to the issue of written authority, about which you said in your written submission to the committee that you

“did not then, nor now, see this as any kind of ‘decision’.”

What did you mean by that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Richard Leonard

Well, the vessels are five years late and two and a half times over budget, so maybe that is a reason why you should reflect on it.

I will bring in Willie Coffey.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Richard Leonard

We are coming towards the end of our session, but Craig Hoy and Sharon Dowey have indicated that they want to come back in with a very short question each. I will come to Craig Hoy first.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Richard Leonard

That is why I am interested in your opinion on whether the ferries will be fit for purpose.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Richard Leonard

Is there a conflict of interest, Mr Østergaard?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Richard Leonard

You share—

Public Audit Committee

Major Capital Projects

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Richard Leonard

That would be helpful.

I am conscious of the fact that Bill Reeve has not had many opportunities to come in, because all these people are asking about bypasses and roundabouts. Let me finish up with a question about the East Kilbride rail enhancement. The briefing that has been given to us describes the project as having been enhanced in size. However, my mailbag tells me that it has gone from being a project that includes dualling of the track to one that retains a single track, so the people of East Kilbride are not very happy about the project as it stands. They see it as being a diminution of the original project. In fact, as recently as yesterday, I saw a letter that was sent by the leader of South Lanarkshire Council to the transport minister, complaining about that very fact. Can you explain why it is seen as an enhancement and where additional scope is involved? The empirical evidence that I get on the ground is that it is the opposite of that.

Public Audit Committee

Major Capital Projects

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Richard Leonard

Excellent. On that positive note for public transport, I will draw this session to a close. Bill Reeve, Helen Carter and Lawrence Shackman, thank you very much indeed for your time this morning. I think that there are one or two points that we want to follow up, and we will do that. Thank you very much indeed.

I now draw this public session of the committee’s deliberations to a close, and we will move into private session.

11:17 Meeting continued in private until 11:44.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Richard Leonard

Thank you. The deputy convener, Sharon Dowey, has a series of questions.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Richard Leonard

But when that advice was overridden, you did not consider your position at that point.