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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
I will bring Graham Simpson back in.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
Well, it is not in the same category. I understand why the Cabinet does not produce its minutes later the same day and that there are year-long rules about when and how Cabinet minutes might be produced—I get that—but this is an operational strategic body that might, in Mr Simpson’s words, be accountable to us as parliamentarians for the decisions that it is taking. I think that there is quite a distinction between a Cabinet—and a Cabinet sub-committee—and this GCE board.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
So, the outcome is that we then get to see none of that, is it not, Mr Brannen?
09:45Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
Okay. We are a bit pressed for time, so I am going to invite Willie Coffey to put a question to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 21st meeting in 2023 of the Public Audit Committee.
The first item on our agenda is a declaration of interests. I invite Graham Simpson, who joins the committee in place of Craig Hoy, to declare any relevant interests.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
When can we expect to see that methodology?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you. I will bring you back in, Willie.
One thing that witnesses did not mention, but which is also quite important, is the electric vehicle charging network. You talked about “ramping up” when it comes to housing and buildings and so on, but you are selling off ChargePlace Scotland and withdrawing from that provision. I do not know whether it might be a question for the Cabinet sub-committee, Mr Brannen, because it might be a policy question, but why is it that the Government is pulling out of that £65 million-worth of investment in EV charge points and handing it over to the private sector?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
Okay.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
In answer to my last question, Mr Brannen, you said that you accepted in full the recommendations and findings of the Audit Scotland report. One of the starkest passages in the report is on page 16, is it not? I will quote what the Auditor General found. The report states that
“The Scottish Government does not routinely carry out carbon assessments or capture the impact of spending decisions on its carbon footprint in the long term.”
Secondly, it states that
“The Scottish Government does not assess how far the policies outlined in the Climate Change Plan Update will contribute to net zero”,
and, thirdly, it states that
“The Scottish Government does not know how much the policies proposed in the current Climate Change Plan Update will cost”.
What was your reaction to reading that in the report?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 September 2023
Richard Leonard
In summary, you are saying that, by the time that we get the next climate change plan, all those criticisms will have been addressed.