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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2023
Richard Leonard
We are coming towards the end of the session. Willie Coffey has a couple of questions on maintenance and I have one final question.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2023
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 27th meeting in 2023 of the Public Audit Committee. The first agenda item is for committee members to decide whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to do so?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed for that opening statement. We move straight to questions. I invite the deputy convener, Sharon Dowey, to ask the first set of questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2023
Richard Leonard
Before we move on, I want to pick up on the theme of transparency that you mentioned in your opening remarks. Paragraph 9 of the briefing paper, which is where the deputy convener started her questioning, states:
“Details are available for only £14.9 billion of the £26 billion of infrastructure investment originally announced.”
In the same paragraph, we find expressions such as
“it is not possible to compare ... makes it difficult to compare”
and
“It does not assess”.
That is a series of criticisms of the transparency of the available data. Have you had any initial response to that from the Scottish Government?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2023
Richard Leonard
We will return to some of those themes over the next 45 minutes to an hour. I will now bring in Willie Coffey, who has some questions to put to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2023
Richard Leonard
On the point that, of the
“45 projects, the costs of eight had increased, 13 had been delayed and a further three had been paused”,
that means, does it not, that fewer than half are on track in terms of cost and timescale?
We hear what you said about it not being possible to be too precise about cost and delivery dates. However, I presume that people build in a degree of flexibility, with an indicative date of completion for an infrastructure project. You might make allowances for snagging and so on as part of the process. We are talking about a substantial number of infrastructure projects that have problems associated with them.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2023
Richard Leonard
Okay. Thanks. That is helpful. Does Graham Simpson want to come in on that point?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 November 2023
Richard Leonard
Just going back to the equality and fairer Scotland duty, I am looking at the Government’s statement, which was authorised in March 2021, so it has been in place for more than two years. When I read the statement, I wondered how those assessments will be made. It says that plans will have to be
“fully Equality & Fairer Scotland Impact Assessed”.
How is the Government doing that? Have you seen any evidence that it has been doing it at all?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 October 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you. I think that that would be useful and would help the committee in considering its next steps.
The Scottish Funding Council is obviously pivotal here. As I read the briefing, it is the Scottish Funding Council that carries out an assessment of the sector’s finances for each academic year. One of the conclusions that you reach in paragraph 10 of the briefing is that the operating surplus for 2021-22 is expected to be “considerably less” than that for the previous year. Will you elaborate on what “considerably less” means?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 October 2023
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 26th meeting in 2023 of the Public Audit Committee. The first item on our agenda is for members of the committee to decide whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.