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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Richard Leonard

Yes. I do not recommend that, Mr Bruce.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Richard Leonard

You described the eight-month wait as the outlier, but did you put that on your website to inform people who might have a complaint of the length of time that they might have to wait?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Richard Leonard

That was a public information announcement by the Auditor General. Excellent. Craig Hoy wanted to come in on this area.

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Richard Leonard

One of the most startling figures in the report is in paragraph 46, where you talk about the extent to which bank or agency nursing staff are being called upon. Those figures are for the three health board areas that you have looked at in most depth and they are striking. You say that the expenditure on bank nursing is up by 57.2 per cent in NHS Lothian, by 90.5 per cent in NHS Highland and, in NHS Ayrshire and Arran, by even more at 90.8 per cent. Why on earth is that happening?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Richard Leonard

As a committee, we will retain a strong interest in that to see where it goes in the next financial year.

We are short of time, so I will bring in Bill Kidd, who has a number of questions.

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you. We will add that to the list of watching briefs on which the committee will need to keep an eye. I have one more question before we draw to a close. I will also bring in Sharon Dowey, Bill Kidd and Willie Coffey for one last go each.

I am interested in teasing this out. I know that, in July 2022, new national planned care targets were announced. As I understand it, the deadline for some of those targets has already passed without their being met. Are you aware of whether those targets are being reviewed and do you know what the new targets and timescales will be?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Richard Leonard

Thanks. We are short of time. The committee will want to return to these areas because they are worthy of further examination. Time is tight, so I will ask Willie Coffey to come in. He has questions on the use of agency nurses and so on.

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much indeed. Without further ado, I invite the deputy convener, Sharon Dowey, to open the questioning.

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Richard Leonard

Yes, absolutely. I am sure that we will return to that point.

I will move things on and turn to something that has been of interest to the committee, not only in this but in the previous session, and that is the financial position of individual territorial health boards. In the report, you suggest that, in your assessment of the 14 territorial health boards, only three are expected to break even, which means that 11 are not. I presume that that does not mean that they will make a surplus, but that they face a financial deficit. We know that, in the past, that led you to have to produce section 22 reports about health board conduct, because concerns were raised about the routes that people chose to go down to get additional resources.

How fit for purpose are the brokerage arrangements? The term “brokerage” is about an intervention by the Scottish Government to help out individual health boards. At one point, I think, it was based on a one-year time horizon; it then went to three years. Will you bring us up to date on the current position and say whether, in your estimation, those arrangements will be robust enough to get the health boards through the challenges that they face?

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Richard Leonard

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 10th meeting of the Public Audit Committee in 2023.

The first item for committee members to consider is whether to take agenda items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Are we agreed to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.