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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
In the interests of time, I will move things on and invite Colin Beattie to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
I will finish up by asking a little bit more about the funding situation, but I have another question before I get to that. You mentioned that many mental health issues are not, at the end of it, directly your responsibility as the director general of health and social care, but are a function of inequality in society, of economic and social deprivation, and of a lack of access to services. Will you tell us a bit more about what the Government can do, or is doing, to take a more whole-system approach to the matter?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
That is the community wealth building model, is it not?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
Can you give us reassurance that that is not just a passing fad and that it will be part of the approach to health and social care?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
When I see a figure of 10 per cent being set out as a goal in Government policy, I do not see that as just being about amounts; I see it as also being about proportions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
We will get into more detail about the data gaps and some of the evidence that we have taken around that, but the question is not so much whether you are talking to various groups or not, but what the outcomes are.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
So, are you saying that when a Scottish Government and COSLA joint strategy is developed, it is all down to what happens at a local level; there is no Scottish Government oversight of that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
Before I bring in Willie Coffey, I want to ask you about a proposal that was put to us by the Mental Health Foundation. It said that, in order to tackle mental health inequalities, there ought to be an assessment of the impact on mental health of all Government decision making. Do you accept that that is worth exploring?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
The Auditor General has obviously chosen to produce the report on adult mental health services because it is a matter of public interest.
Caroline Lamb, I will take you back to your initial response when I put to you the evidence that we had taken from both the Royal College of Psychiatrists in Scotland and the Auditor General. At 9 o’clock, you said that you accepted all the key messages in the report. However, before the clock got to half past 9, you were distancing yourself from the very clear message that there is a view, which has been reinforced in all the round-table evidence sessions that we have had, that the system is fragmented and that there are issues around accountability in the system. Do you not accept any of that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2023
Richard Leonard
Are you saying that you think that that is working well?