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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

If you can share any of that information with the committee, it would be useful. The cost issue was raised in the report, which is why Colin Beattie asked the question about it.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

I will bring you in at this point, Ms Paterson. What is SEPA’s perspective on what is identified in the report as “gaps” and sometimes “a lack of clarity” about roles and responsibilities?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. Colin Beattie has some questions.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. That is very helpful.

I will now bring in Graham Simpson to put questions to you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. I invite Nicole Paterson to make an opening statement on behalf of SEPA.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. I can say from my time as convener of this committee that it has not always been the case that timescales have been set by Audit Scotland or the Accounts Commission in reports. However, it has, I think, become practice to try to give a bit more of an impetus to acceptance and implementation of the recommendations. That is why the report is set out in the way that it is.

The report certainly uncovers some areas where there is a certain level of dissatisfaction, if not concern. Indeed, the very first recommendation talks about “gaps” and a lack of clarity over “roles and responsibilities”. How would you address that criticism?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

There have been gaps in cycle 1, presumably.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much, and thanks to the deputy convener for that final series of questions.

We have run out of time, so I will draw this morning’s session to a close. Before I do, I take this opportunity to thank all of you—Anne Aitken, Diarmuid Ó Néill, director general Roy Brannen, Michelagh O’Neill, Nicole Paterson, Alex Flucker, Mark Boyd, Gareth Dixon and Will Burnish—for your contributions. You have all had an opportunity to give us evidence this morning, and we really appreciate that.

There was some scepticism as to whether we needed so many witnesses for one session, but I think that it has proved useful in giving us a fuller version of how you see things and the perspectives of your different organisations and parts of government. It has certainly given us as a committee a lot to consider, so thank you all very much.

I now move the meeting into private session.

11:18 Meeting continued in private until 12:04.  

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. Joe FitzPatrick has some questions for the witnesses.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Richard Leonard

We will return to those themes as we go through the morning.

I have one other question, which I think is largely for you to answer, Mr Brannen. You have told us already that things are well under way and that, although the recommendations and timescales might be quite challenging, the recommendations are already being addressed, and you accept them all.

We took evidence from the Auditor General and other people from Audit Scotland on 17 September—which is not that long ago—as well as from Andrew Burns from the Accounts Commission. As was also captured in the report, Mr Burns said that, while there is now a strategy, which is

“a step in the right direction ... there is not an implementation plan.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 17 September 2025; c 40.]

Why is that?