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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Richard Leonard

Given the rate of increase of the number of colleges that are going into deficit, if that trend was to continue next year, every college would be in deficit, would it not?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Richard Leonard

We probably need the current position.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay. You cannot be held responsible for when the Scottish Funding Council publishes its report. We understand that.

I invite Willie Coffey to ask some questions. Sharon Dowey may drop in and out of this section as well.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Richard Leonard

It has not developed that picture as part of its scenario in its submissions to the Funding Council, for example.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you. We are drawing towards the close of this session, but the deputy convener, Sharon Dowey, has a number of questions to put. Sharon—over to you.

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Richard Leonard

Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to the 25th meeting in 2023 of the Public Audit Committee. The first item on the agenda is a decision on whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Are members of the committee content to do that?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Richard Leonard

The committee’s main agenda item is item 2, which is a session on the Auditor General for Scotland and Accounts Commission section 23 report “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”. I am pleased that we are joined by four representatives today. We are joined, from the Scottish Government, by Neil Rennick, director general for education and justice, and Eleanor Passmore, deputy director for early learning and childcare, and, from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, by Matthew Sweeney, policy manager for children and young people, and Joanna Anderson, policy manager for local government and finance.

Before we ask questions of the Scottish Government team and the representatives from COSLA, I ask Mr Rennick to give an opening statement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you. When we took evidence previously, one of the elements that we were interested in was construction inflation, which was defined as being about 30 per cent—considerably higher than even the retail prices index and the consumer prices index. We were not clear on what you have identified as the principal drivers for inflation in the construction sector. Can you shed any light on that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you. I turn to the representatives of COSLA. Joanna Anderson, I am sure that your ears pricked up when you heard the director general say that no local authority had approached the Government for additional support for capital investment. What is the local government perspective on what has happened with capital spending?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Richard Leonard

But is it the right hard data?