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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
The next questions come from Colin Beattie.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much. I now invite Willie Coffey to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
My final question is on leadership, especially at health board level. First, your report mentioned that four of the 14 territorial boards will be looking for new chief executives. Actually, the number might have gone up since the date of the report. My question is this: how much succession planning is there? The committee gets the impression that people move around from board to board. Is that too narrow a focus for recruitment to the senior positions? Have you a view on whether other parts of the public sector could be looked to?
The second part of my question is about non-executive board members. The committee has looked in some detail at the NHS Forth Valley experience, where there has been a governance review, fairly substantial recommendations have been made, people have moved on and so on. What are your views on recruitment, the standard of people who come forward for non-executive posts and whether the training that they receive is sufficient to equip them to do those important jobs? In the end, they are responsible for a huge part of public expenditure in Scotland—40 per cent, potentially rising to 50 per cent—under the devolved budget.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Mr Rathjen, I want to go back to you, because I feel as though you are almost misleading the committee. You said that you believed that it was an error of judgment and that you thought that what was going on was not acceptable, but when I read the email that you sent, I see that you said things like,
“I am grateful for the opportunity to comment ...On the Christmas gifts I accept this was an oversight and do not think it is proportionate to try and recover the balance ... On the training costs, I rather agree that this is a unique training offering and can see why single tender was your approach ... I would have agreed with the approach ... Due diligence had been carried out”.
That does not tell me that you are challenging the decision; it tells me that you are going along with it. You are complicit in what many people who are looking at the matter now would understand to be a waste of public money.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Willie Coffey has some questions to put to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Do you think that that is an operational matter? Is it not a human rights matter?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
I will move on, but I will come back in later. I now invite Colin Beattie to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Willie Coffey has some questions on Barlinnie and the estate.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
If you want to do that, that would be helpful.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2024
Richard Leonard
One of the themes in the Audit Scotland report is the importance of collaborative working. A lot of the challenges that have been described by you this morning are amplified in the Audit Scotland report. The risks that are faced by the prison system will only be solved, in the view of the Auditor General, by better collaborative working between the Scottish Prison Service, justice partners, the Scottish Government and so on. Do you have a view about how you think that collaborative working relationship should be?