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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
Okay, but—again—do you not see that as a risk regarding which you need to plan for the possibility of litigation being raised?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
I wonder whether you can clear something else up for me, which was in a statement that we received in evidence that we took when we had GEOAmey before us. When I asked him about exposure to human rights litigation, David Jones said:
“The human rights obligation sits with the state actor, not the private company.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 28 March 2024; c 37.]
Is that correct?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
Those were my words, not Mr Farrell’s, on this occasion. He might use them as well, but I used them this time.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you.
Following neatly on from that, the deputy convener has some questions to put to you. Jamie, over to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
Can I take that as a yes?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
I will bring in Teresa Medhurst in a minute. Are you taking legal advice on that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
One of the other dimensions is in evidence that we took on 14 March from His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Prisons in Scotland, when we were told—this language was used—that there were “human rights breaches”, and particular reference was made to prisoners not receiving access to medical treatment and hospital appointments, which is a denial of their human rights. Have you taken legal advice on that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
As the Public Audit Committee we have taken evidence from the Auditor General, a member of staff from Audit Scotland and staff from HMIPS, who have all talked about human rights breaches and the risk that is posed.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
So, Scottish ministers could face prosecution, not GEOAmey or the chief executive of the SPS?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2024
Richard Leonard
If you need to, you can reply to any of these questions in writing afterwards We would rather have accurate information than speculative information.