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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

It still seems to me that there were quite big delays between those different staging posts.

I will turn to another area that has been identified in a number of external examinations of the board, which is the culture of relations with staff. The particular recurring theme is that the views and voices of staff were not being listened to. Do you accept that finding?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

I am an old-fashioned trade union person. When you say that you engage with your staff colleagues, do you mean that you sit down with the national health service trade unions?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

Thanks for that answer. Graham Simpson wants to come in on that line of questioning.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

Are there still five beds in four-bedded bays?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

There are. Okay.

Have you carried out all the risk assessments that were required?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay, but my question is this: is there a formal process whereby somebody who leaves the health board—who has been the chief executive or who has been in a senor HR role for a number of years, down to those nursing staff who have left, who have now created vacancies in the system—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

Let me finish, please.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

The last word goes to you, Janie McCusker.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

We have been speaking about whistleblowing, for example. I am just asking whether, if there are cultural issues that mean that you are not able to retain staff at any level, you are able to monitor that.

Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Richard Leonard

I will pick up straight away on governance arrangements, which was one of the themes in that introduction. In the report, you say:

“The Scottish Government should: finalise governance arrangements for the Heat in Buildings Strategy programme as soon as possible”.

That is the expression that you use—there is a degree of urgency. That seems to be instructive, when we look at some of the dates in the report and the scale of the challenge that is to be met by those dates. Can you tell us what governance arrangements the Scottish Government needs to finalise at this stage?