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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
I suppose that one of the manifestations of having a more coherent approach is you producing a joint report with His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in Scotland.
Finally, I will touch on another area that is highlighted in the report that we are considering this morning, which is the depth of stakeholder engagement. You comment that there was limited public involvement in the development of the strategy, and that perhaps there could have been greater workforce involvement in the development of the strategy.
I do not know whether you want to kick off on that, Auditor General, and then I will move to Mr Naylor or Mr Paterson.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
The choice of language is quite telling, is it not? It is not just an ambition to be non-racist and non-discriminatory; it is “anti-racist” and “anti-discriminatory”, which suggests that an active piece of work is under way.
I now invite Graham Simpson to put some questions.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. We now move to our final round of questions, and I invite the deputy convener to put those to you.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
There is time for a short final question.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Our main agenda item is consideration of the report “Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”, which is a joint report by Audit Scotland and His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in Scotland. We are pleased to welcome witnesses from both HMICS and Audit Scotland.
First, I welcome the Auditor General for Scotland, Stephen Boyle. He is joined by, from his team at Audit Scotland, Fiona Mitchell-Knight, who is an audit director, and Lucy Jones, who is an audit manager. We are also pleased to welcome Craig Naylor, who is HM chief inspector of constabulary in Scotland, and John Paterson, who is the lead inspector at HM Inspectorate of Constabulary in Scotland.
We have questions to put to the witnesses, but, before we turn to those questions, I invite the Auditor General to give a short opening statement.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Auditor General, I do not know whether you want to comment.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much. I will now move us along to another area in which we are interested as a committee, and I invite Joe FitzPatrick to speak to that.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Before I bring in Graham Simpson, I will bring in the deputy convener, who has a supplementary question on equalities, which was touched on in the report that Joe FitzPatrick raised.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Okay. Thank you very much—that was a useful understanding of workforce wellbeing issues.
We will now move on to talk about workforce planning, and I invite Colin Beattie to put some questions.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much for that clarity. You will be aware that we have a second public evidence session this morning on Historic Environment Scotland, which has been the subject of a section 22 report by Audit Scotland. We have also carried out an inquiry into the Water Industry Commission for Scotland over the past year or so. Following the unearthing of issues through that investigation and the identification of issues through the audit, we were told by the cabinet secretary last year that the Scottish Government was planning “deep dives” into all parts of the public sector to review risks and that an examination was being conducted to make sure that the behaviours and practices that we had seen in WICS were not being replicated elsewhere in the public sector. Did that deep dive include Historic Environment Scotland?