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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Richard Leonard

No, that is your prerogative.

I will go back to an earlier line of questioning. There is something that I want to understand. I have correspondence in front of me from 2018 when the then Public Audit and Post-Legislative Scrutiny Committee wrote to the then Minister for Further Education, Higher Education and Science to seek clarity about the respective role of the Government, the Scottish Funding Council and the colleges. In the minister’s reply, one of the turns of phrase that were used in reference to the financial memorandum at the time struck me. The letter said:

“Importantly, the FM”—

the financial memorandum—

“recognises that colleges are autonomous bodies”.

What happens if a college runs out of money before the end of the year? I think that Karen Watt said that the Scottish Funding Council is in a much tougher financial position and that it maybe does not have the strategic funds that it would have had a few years ago to help a college to get over that. What would happen? Would the college become technically insolvent?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Richard Leonard

The question of the infrastructure of the college estate has been an issue for quite some time. I think that the Auditor General brought out a report on it in 2018, and I certainly remember raising it in Parliament with the then First Minister as a matter of public interest and concern. Why has it taken so long to address the issue?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Richard Leonard

Graham Simpson has a very short question.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much, indeed.

One of the themes that we will pick up this morning is financial sustainability. By way of opening up on that, I note that the evidence that we have taken—both from the Auditor General and from witnesses at a round-table meeting to which we invited the key stakeholders in the sector to give us their perspectives—put across some fairly clear points.

The Audit Scotland report identifies that 8.5 per cent of real-terms cuts have been imposed on the sector over the past two years. A pre-budget submission from Colleges Scotland described the sector as being “on a burning platform”—echoing the words that James Withers had used.

Colleges Scotland’s post-budget analysis suggests that, in its view, revenue funding for Scotland’s colleges is to be cut by 8.4 per cent year on year—in cash terms, not in real terms. It is estimated that the capital budget will rise by 3 per cent in cash terms.

Karen Watt’s note to the committee says that

“The financial position of colleges continues to deteriorate”.

What is the financial position of colleges, Mr Rennick?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 14 December 2023

Richard Leonard

You also spoke of financial challenges. We will get to those in more detail in the course of the meeting, but I have a question about the announcement in the past couple of weeks of another in-year budget cut to mental health services, which follows on from the in-year cut announced as a result of the emergency budget review last November, which was of the order of £38 million. The cut this year is £29.9 million.

The joint report states:

“Increasing the availability of mental health and wellbeing services in primary care could help to prioritise prevention and early intervention and decrease pressure on specialist services.”

How will the recently announced cuts, which include a reprofiling of mental health and primary care programmes, impact on those services?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 14 December 2023

Richard Leonard

So, what spend has been postponed—I think that that was the expression used in the letter to the Finance and Public Administration Committee—from the mental health transformation fund?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 14 December 2023

Richard Leonard

Is there not a bit of an implementation gap? The Government’s stated position is that it will increase mental health funding by 25 per cent and that 10 per cent of all NHS front-line spending will be on mental health, but things seem to be going backwards, not forwards, on both fronts.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 14 December 2023

Richard Leonard

We will get on to data and evidence shortly.

One of the clear recommendations of the report that we are discussing concerns the fact that there is a great inequality in the impact of mental ill health. In one of the evidence sessions, we considered the impact on the minority ethnic community and other marginalised groups. Will taking money out of the mental health services budget not also have a disproportionately unequal impact on the communities that are most marginalised and probably most dependent on mental health services?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 14 December 2023

Richard Leonard

There is a joint Convention of Scottish Local Authorities-Scottish Government mental health and wellbeing strategy that refers to the specific needs of minority ethnic groups. However, during the course of our inquires, we have been told that there is no action in the accompanying delivery plan to provide culturally sensitive mental health services. Can you explain why that is?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 14 December 2023

Richard Leonard

Those groups have said to us that a plan does not exist.