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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Richard Leonard

Rebbecca McConnachie, did you say that NHS Forth Valley would be required to make savings of the order of 28 per cent?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Richard Leonard

Thank you. I invite Willie Coffey to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay—thank you.

My second quick question is one that we have addressed in relation to a number of other reports: the question of induction training for members of the health board. Do they get such training in NHS Forth Valley?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Richard Leonard

So that is not an issue that you have identified or that was identified by the John Brown inquiry.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. On that note, I draw the evidence session to a close. I thank you, Auditor General, for the evidence that you have given us, and I thank Pat Kenny and Rebbecca McConnachie from Deloitte and Leigh Johnston from Audit Scotland for the evidence that they have shared with us.

I now draw the public session to a close and move the committee into private session.

10:32 Meeting continued in private until 11:06.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Richard Leonard

Not to paraphrase the Deputy First Minister too heavily but, when she presented it to the Parliament, she accepted that there was no fundamental change and that it was a rather modest improvement. Is it reviewed every five years? Is that how it works?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Richard Leonard

When you say, “similarly”, do you mean that we can expect other public sector organisations to downsize as well?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Richard Leonard

Against those listed items that were purchased with the e-card, the report uses the expression “out of scope” quite a lot. Can you just elaborate on what that means? Does it mean that the things that Mr Simpson spoke about are still in scope, or are they out of scope? Are they out of scope full stop, out of scope for the e-card, or in scope?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Richard Leonard

I will move on to a couple of other areas. Permanent secretary, you referred to the fact that you accept the need for public sector reform. Presumably, you would also accept one of the other recommendations, which is about better workforce planning. Why were there no details on either of those in the budget that was presented recently to Parliament?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Richard Leonard

Obviously, you are the principal accountable officer in the Government. Is it your view that the Government’s policy objectives are affordable and sustainable?