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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Who were your previous legal advisers in the course of the past 20 years?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
This is my final question. Does the Scottish Government have a limit on what staff can spend on meals per head?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
What do you mean by a “long-standing relationship”?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Okay. When you appeared before us in March, you told us that, through your committee meetings,
“we had regular conversations about public reaction to excessive spend, so there were challenges at the time. There was a lot of pushback, but we kept up that challenge.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 21 March 2024; c 17.]
So, which is it? Was it a surprise that that was the way that governance arrangements were working and that that is how the approval process was being interpreted, or was it a long-standing battle that you were having with the former chief executive officer?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Yes—as long as you are not going to read out a rehearsed contribution. We would like you to answer the questions that we are putting to you, Mr MacRae.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Okay. That is not an entirely satisfactory ending, but I thank you all for taking part in this morning’s evidence session. I appreciate that it has been long and, at times, quite testing, so thank you for your co-operation. There are a number of areas that the committee will want to follow up, and I think that we have agreed that you will get some more information to us to help us understand both what has gone on and what is happening.
Again, I thank Catherine Williams, Kersti Berge, Michelle Quinn, David Satti, Donald MacRae and Robin McGill for their time—it is much appreciated. We will consider our next steps as a committee. I now close the public part of this morning’s meeting.
11:18 Meeting continued in private until 11:31.Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Very briefly.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
In the interests of time, we will move straight to Graham Simpson, who will ask the final round of questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
So it is a no-alcohol policy now.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Okay. I will turn to Michelle Quinn. One of the other things that have come out of the evidence that we have seen so far is that the former deputy director was also present at some of the meals that involved purchasing alcohol with the credit card. What is the position of the DG net zero on that?