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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Okay—that is fine. I invite Joe FitzPatrick to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
I turn to Joe FitzPatrick to put some questions.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
In response to one of Colin Beattie’s questions, you said that the answer is not more acute beds, but what about when health boards such as NHS Forth Valley close wards? It closed ward A11 of the Forth Valley royal hospital and has reduced the bed capacity. Do you have to sanction that, or is that a decision for the health board to take on its own? Do you have a general view about the contraction of capacity? Looking at the report, the lack of available beds is clearly highlighted as an issue.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
I am afraid that the families whose relatives were in that ward would not see that as an exemplar. I will not go into any more detail, but let me assure you that that is not how they saw it—and, frankly, it is not how the staff at the hospital saw it either.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Picking up on that final question, one of the striking things in the briefing on community health and social care performance is exhibit 4 at the end, which talks about the impact of inequalities and the importance of reducing them. It points out clearly the huge gap in life expectancy, both male and female, between the most deprived and least deprived areas in Scotland, and it talks about the relationship between deprivation and the frequency in the use of day beds, premature mortality in areas of dense population and—this takes us back to the letter that Mr Simpson read out—the higher rates of unpaid care in some of the most deprived communities.
There are some fundamental social and economic structural issues out there, are there not? I acknowledge that it is perhaps not your sole responsibility to challenge and remedy them, but do you, in your position, take a view on those things? What is the Government doing to try to address the huge inequalities that exist?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
I turn to Graham Simpson to put some questions.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the sixth meeting in 2026 of the Public Audit Committee. The first item on our agenda is for members of the committee to decide whether to take agenda items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed for that introduction to the report. When I look at the key messages at the very start of the report, they give quite a positive picture. You use terminology such as “Financial management is strong” and “Governance arrangements are effective”, and you say:
“Policing in Scotland benefits from effective strategic leadership, with senior leaders working well together supported by open, constructive relationships.”
As a Public Audit Committee, we do not often read a report that has such uncritical conclusions and key messages. You might want to say a word about that.
However, I picked up that, when you spoke in the report about the strategic police plan, you said that the priorities and outcomes were not necessarily all that well defined. How do you reconcile those headline descriptions of how well things are going with some of the discoveries that you made when you looked in more detail at things such as the strategic police plan?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Could you perhaps develop a little bit more—perhaps Mr Naylor can start on this—the theme of how that proliferation of strategies and plans is being produced, as you describe it, in a way that is not necessarily creating an alignment of purpose? How is that impairing the organisation delivering on its objectives?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Richard Leonard
I thank our witnesses for what has been a very thorough session. We have covered a lot of ground, and I really appreciate the input that you have given us. It is up to us now to consider what our next steps are and whether some of the organisations that have been mentioned are ones that we might want to call in to take evidence from.
I thank you, Auditor General, and Fiona Mitchell-Knight and Lucy Jones for your evidence. I particularly thank Craig Naylor and John Paterson. It was really useful getting your input this morning. It brought an added dimension to proceedings. That joint reporting approach, Auditor General, was a really innovative and important thing to do.
With that, I move the committee into private session.
11:28
Meeting continued in private until 11:59.