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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
As a very quick question, are people eligible for legal aid to help them to pay for that? The documents for establishment of power of attorney are not inexpensive, are they?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
As I mentioned at the start, you are the chief executive of NHS Scotland, so you must be concerned—must you not?—when you see figures such as
“11.7 per cent of hospital beds being unnecessarily occupied”
by people because of delayed discharge. That is 720,000 days that are lost because of delayed discharge, and two thirds of those delays involve people over the age of 75. What is your response to that?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Does it not then become a test of whether or not the agency’s action is “reasonable”?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Okay. Colin Beattie has some questions for you.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
We will follow that up.
The deputy convener will now put some final questions to the witnesses and wrap up the session.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Thank you. Before we finish, Graham Simpson has a quick follow-up question.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
I thank Michael Oliphant, Stuart Nugent and the Auditor General for their evidence this morning on this important report.
We will convene a special meeting of the committee on Tuesday 17 March, when we will take evidence from the chief executive of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency, as well as from the Scottish Government’s director general corporate, because there is some responsibility in that quarter, too. We look forward to that session, when we will be able to put some questions to them.
As I understand it, Auditor General, this is the final public session of the Public Audit Committee that you will attend. I say, on behalf of the committee, a great thanks to the staff at Audit Scotland, and especially to you, for your outstanding leadership of the organisation. The public service that you provide, the spotlight that you shine, in the public interest, and the quality and standard of the work that you produce are exceptional. It has allowed us, as a committee, to scrutinise public bodies in the way that we have been able to do over the past five years—at least, while I have been chairing the committee, because Colin Beattie goes back even further. The work that you do provides not just this committee and Parliament, but the public, with a hugely important public service. I wanted to put that on the record, on behalf of the committee.
12:15
Meeting continued in private until 12:47.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Okay. I have just one particular area that I want to ask you about, which is mentioned in the report: the whole issue of power of attorney. That gets us almost into a legal area, does it not? It is about whether people have access to established power-of-attorney arrangements with their relatives or with whoever. That is seen to be one of the reasons why we have delayed discharge: because those arrangements are not in place. Could you shed a bit more light on that and perhaps explain what the Government is doing to tackle it? That seems to be one of the driving forces behind delayed discharge and people getting caught up in the system.
09:45
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
Finally, I turn to the deputy convener, Jamie Greene, who has some questions for you.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 February 2026
Richard Leonard
That makes sense.
I go back to my original question. All of this stems from the McCloud judgment, which was a court case in which the UK Government was challenged under age discrimination laws. My question was whether the Scottish Public Pensions Agency could be sued by people in the small claims court or another arena because it has failed to meet its legal responsibilities to make those assessments and then to give people any back pension pay that they are due.