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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

I will go back to the regulator and advocacy distinction. Do you see yourself as having a regulatory role?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

That is interesting.

I know that this question is probably invidious, too, but could you put figures on that split? Is it now 80:20 or 50:50?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Good morning. I want to pick up the points about powers, which you might be able to help me with. As I understand it, you have investigatory powers in relation to the human rights of groups of children. You now also have investigatory powers in relation to human rights in individual cases. You said that the prosecution of individual cases rests with the SPSO, but, when the SPSO came to see the committee, she explained that the office has no enforcement powers. It can make recommendations to public bodies—even to the Parliament and to Governments—but there is no binding requirement for its recommendations to be followed. Is that the model that you want?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

That distinction is well made.

The other question that I want to put to you, which, again, is one that I put earlier to the Scottish Human Rights Commission, is about shared services. From your perspective, are there obvious barriers that are preventing greater sharing of services between the various SPCB supported bodies?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay—thank you very much.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Thank you. That was very clear and helpful.

There are other labels that get bandied about, such as the extent to which you are “proactive” or “reactive”; indeed, we have used those terms ourselves earlier, and you have answered Lorna Slater’s question on that point. This might seem invidious, but could you put percentages on the balance of your workload between proactive and reactive activities?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

That was a very helpful answer. Thank you.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Imagine it, Mr Hobbs. Would you like them?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

That is the collective view of the commissioner and the office.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Richard Leonard

That is helpful. One of the things that we are asking every witness who appears before the committee relates to the distinction that is drawn between being a regulator and being an advocate. People say to me that the Children and Young People’s Commissioner is an advocacy commission. How do you define yourself?