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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
Yes—subject to negotiations. As it stands, we cannot support those provisions, and we need to ensure that the negotiations put mechanisms in there that give the Scottish Parliament oversight and respect devolved competence.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
Yes. It is about awareness and consent.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
Yes.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
Clause 13, which is on emergency directions, has also been negotiated, and it is probably a more straightforward area of negotiation. However, clauses 11 and 13 need to be bottomed out, because we need to make sure that, even in emergency situations, we are aware of what is happening and that we are involved when the secretary of state takes action.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
I will have to turn to the lawyer for that, if that is okay.
09:45Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
It could sign up to something that is decided on at the conference of the parties. Obviously, Scotland does not have a seat, because we are not a nation state at the conference of the parties, so we are reliant on the UK Government to negotiate the situation on our behalf. We are looking for mechanisms in the bill to ensure that the Scottish Government is consulted and included in the discussions at the conference of the parties. When an agreement is made by the conference of the parties, we mean to have consent over its devolved aspects, because we cannot have the implementation of things that we have not signed up to. It is as simple as that, I suppose.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
There is another aspect to this, which is about ascertaining the breadth of activities that might happen in this area. The consultation will also give both Governments an understanding of what is taking place beyond national jurisdictions. I have given the convener a few instances of things that we know with regard to marine research and whatever, but, through the consultation, we hope to have a better understanding of who is carrying out what activities, and what the connection is to both the UK and Scotland.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
Yes. That is the issue: what could happen in the future and how might that have an impact? You have raised a good point. I will bring in Joanna Dingwall.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
We are trying to negotiate. As I said, we want to be able to tell the committee that we have been successful in our negotiations and that we have come to conclusions with which we are satisfied, in the same way that we were with the amendment to clause 18 that was tabled at the House of Lords bill committee yesterday. We are happy with that amendment, which related to environmental impact assessment obligations. It can be done, therefore, and we are hopeful that it will be done.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Gillian Martin
With regard to the previous question about who would enact everything associated with the BBNJ, it is the UK Government. We would scrutinise the devolved areas on which it impinged, and Parliament would scrutinise that as part of having a consent mechanism embedded in the bill. I cannot pick out a potential scenario and predict what would happen and how the UK Government would respond to it. It is an impossible question to answer.