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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

The aim is 52 weeks.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

That is why we are increasing the budget to £150 million, which is a tripling of the activity that the monies have done up to now. That tripling will prompt the kind of things that Mr Matheson described as ambitions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I do not agree that it is slow. I would say that we are probably oversubscribed with the number of projects that want just transition funding. Being a north-easter, I have had the pleasure of visiting quite a lot of projects, including those that have been successful in getting just transition funding.

Other work has also been done. There has been investment in the green hydrogen hub and in the Net Zero Technology Centre. There has been other investment that has not come directly from the just transition fund but that has had a just transition effect.

The just transition fund supported projects as well as a participatory budgeting section, which went out to third sector partner organisations that invited applications from small community groups, for example. At the moment, my officials and I are trying to assess the outcomes of the £75 million that was spent, so that we ensure that the money that is going out from the just transition fund has positive outcomes associated with it and targets the areas where we need intervention in terms of a just transition—that relates to the basis of your question. We have been doing that work over the past year, and it will inform the detail of the next allocation round.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

All funds are oversubscribed, but there are certain projects that do not have the right criteria in the way that others do, so you have to make a judgment—you cannot just give out public money without that assessment.

There is a great deal of interest in the fund, and I am delighted to say that we are reopening the fund this year. We are looking at the criteria for the fund and where we might want to target it.

Next year’s allocation might be different, based on what happens this year. However, as far as I am concerned, the £500 million just transition fund is an extremely important tool for the north-east and Moray, and it shows our commitment to an energy transition that is happening principally in those areas.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

ACVO. Thank you very much. We are working with them to get that analysis.

I have done quite a lot of visits and talked to people who have been involved in participatory budgeting. A great example is what has been done with a disused bowling green in the city centre, where there is now a climate cafe that makes available its own fruit and vegetables. I highly recommend that you visit it. Those things have had an impact on not just the climate, but the community. I want to take that into account, too.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I am confident that that is happening, but I can get the detail to the committee.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

The Government funds only 50 per cent of SEPA’s activities, because it raises revenue for the other half. Operational decisions about how it spends that budget are for SEPA. We want to see that the money that we give to SEPA has been spent wisely. We have a relationship with SEPA in which we oversee how that is done, based on its business plan.

You will forgive me if I do not jump into being the chief executive officer of SEPA. It makes decisions based on its budget. It has revenue generation capacity and capabilities, as well as the £50.2 million that we are giving it in the budget.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

That issue is tangential to the budget. We want to ensure that Scotland’s environmental quality is as it should be. SEPA has assessed 87 per cent of Scotland’s water environment as having a high or good classification, and 66 per cent of water bodies are in good ecological condition. We also provide SEPA with a grant from the water environment fund for river basin management. Obviously, when public money is going to SEPA, we want to see that it is improving environmental quality in Scotland. If that is not the case, the Government, and the committee, will discuss that with SEPA.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I am not sure what that has to do with the budget, but I can say that £5 million has been put in the budget for community action hubs to deal with that.

I think that Mr Lumsden knows that I would be in danger of breaching the ministerial code if I engaged with any groups where there are live applications or potential applications.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Did I hear you right, Ms Lennon—did you say that there is friction within the Government?