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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

Welcome to the eighth meeting in 2021 of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee.

Our first item is to decide whether to take agenda items 3 to 6 in private. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

Over the years, since Scottish Mesh Survivors first began petitioning, there has been a lot of testimony as to what happened to the women and where trust in the people who had been removing the mesh had dissolved. How has that informed the way in which the services are being taken forward? You talked about the clinicians and surgeons who are involved in the work that you are doing, and the expertise that you have. What learning has come from the mistakes and practices of the past to lead us to where we are now with the bill?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

We have heard from many women, and they have all said that there should be a degree of flexibility, because every person’s case, when they have gone for surgery—be it in Bristol or in the States—has been different. There have been different circumstances and, as Emma Harper has mentioned, women have had different health complications. They want to see that recognised and, if someone does not fit into a particular box but has still incurred a lot of costs, they want flexibility. Do you believe that the bill as it stands allows for that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

David Torrance said that a person who had the removal surgery a few years ago might have had some smaller expenses such as taxis and meals and might not have kept the receipts because they never thought that they would be reimbursed. I understand that there will be some flexibility about that. If someone took out a loan to raise money to pay for their surgery, interest will be an additional cost. Will that sort of thing be covered by the reimbursement scheme?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

Evelyn Tweed has some questions on that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

The second item is an evidence session with the Scottish Government on the Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill. The Scottish Government officials from the bill team, who are all participating remotely, are Greig Chalmers, head of the chief medical officer’s policy division; David Bishop, mesh team leader; Terry O’Kelly, senior medical adviser; Ailsa Garland, solicitor; and Kate Walker, solicitor.

I have a note of the questions that members want to ask.

My initial questions to the bill team are about the specialist mesh removal service. I would like to get an idea of where we are with that. The committee has reached out to mesh survivors, who have asked questions about the service. I am not sure who to call on. Is the question for Mr Chalmers?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

Emma Harper has a short question, which I think will be the final question of the morning.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

David Torrance has questions on the reimbursement scheme.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

I asked because the committee also wants to know about specialist mesh removal services. That is why we are asking about those services as well as the reimbursement scheme.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 October 2021

Gillian Martin

We are running out of time, but some members have questions on the financial memorandum.