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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

No—I have answered it. I think that it is feasible.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

With regard to the budget lines in my portfolio in relation to the circular economy and zero waste, £23.2 million is associated with zero waste activity, and there is also Zero Waste Scotland’s funding of £16.4 million.

I do not want to get this figure wrong but, in addition to that, earlier, I pointed to an area in which local authorities were given funding for climate-related activities. Local authorities will also receive money as a result of extended producer responsibility, which will, very significantly, allow local authorities to work on dealing with their waste in a different way. The deposit return scheme will have an impact on being able to shift their capacity to other things.

It is not just the budget line for zero waste activity in my portfolio that is assisting with the rolling out of the route map and the activities that are associated with the route map; there is also the funding that COSLA asked for.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Peatland restoration is funded from the rural affairs budget, so Mairi Gougeon is responsible for the budget line that is associated with that. I am looking at some of the lines—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Yes. It is monitored by SEPA.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Can we confirm that in writing to the committee?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I was concerned.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

No, because the free allocations militate against that. I am talking about the particular instrument that we are discussing today, which is designed to close a loophole through which operators who have ceased production would benefit from a scheme in which they would have free allocations that would not be used by the operation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I will not comment any more on Jim Ratcliffe’s comments—he has a particular view and he has made that clear to the UK Government and in the press.

The ETS was set up with a provision for those high-emitting sectors to have free allocations. There was an acknowledgement that they should have free allocations, because there will always be some sectors that find it harder to decarbonise than others do. The ETS is there to ensure that there is not carbon leakage. That is all I really have to say on that. If we did not have systems like that in place and there were no free allocations, we would offshore our emissions.

The purpose of the instrument is to ensure that companies do not profit from the ETS when they are not operating.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

We have not carried out a full impact assessment, because there is no regulatory provision for that to be done. The impact of changes to permanent cessation rules on businesses was published in November 2024 in an analytical annex to the initial authority response to the free allocation review consultation. You will be able to find the detail of the analysis in that document.

The main purpose of the instrument is to ensure that plants and operations that cease production do not have a valuable free allocation once the plant is no longer operational. There has been a lot of criticism of the potential for that situation to occur, as it would mean that operators that cease operations could profit from the free allocation. There has been a lot of criticism of that loophole in wider society and, indeed, in the media.