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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

I thank you all so much for your time and for the help that you have given us in looking at the issues from your perspectives. That is the end of that session and of our meeting.

At our next meeting, on 14 December, the committee will take further evidence on perinatal mental health and will undertake stage 2 proceedings on the Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill.

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

12:28 Meeting continued in private until 12:47.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Thank you. That was very helpful for my colleagues, who will be able to dig in deeper.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

We have specific questions on training, but Emma Harper has a supplementary question before we move on to that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Please raise your hand if you want to come in on that. The issue has been flagged up to us. We have heard that infant feeding can be a trigger for mental health issues if support is not there. Joanne Smith, can we come to you first?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

I was just about to come to Clea Harmer.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

While you were talking, it occurred to me that one of my colleagues, Angela Crawley MP, is campaigning for paid miscarriage leave. I assume that Sands fully supports that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Thank you for that. There is lots for us to think about there.

Before handing over to my colleagues, I will pick up on one issue that has been mentioned, which I was aware of before: the policy around continuity of carer—for instance, knowing, when you go into labour, who the midwife is and knowing that it will be not be someone you have never met before. As you say, that policy is still to be rolled out. This question is for any of you. When it comes to the practical aspect of that, and given what you have said about the shortage of midwives—it will not be easy, and I am not asking how easy this will be to roll out—do you think that that policy will be doable within the next couple of years, as we come out of the pandemic? Could you reflect on the importance to mental health of having continuity of midwifery care? What difference would that make?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Before we delve into the workforce issues that you have all mentioned, I want to ask Mary Ross-Davie a question. We have spoken to parents who have had mental health issues as a result of pregnancy and childbirth, and one of them mentioned that they had support from an additional support midwife during pregnancy, because it was established that she needed that extra care. I was not aware of that previously but, on probing further, I found that additional support midwives are not available throughout Scotland. Is that your experience? Can you shed any light on where such midwives are available? To me, it sounds like good practice to give somebody an additional support midwife when it is known that they will have particular difficulties.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Thank you. That is very helpful. My colleagues will probably come back to quite a few of the issues that you have brought up.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

David, are you happy to leave it there so that we can move on to other members’ questions, or do you want to come back in?