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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 May 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

The women to whom we spoke in our informal session mentioned support for infant feeding, as did people who submitted written evidence. That brings us back to the point about consistency of approach throughout the country. In some places, breastfeeding support has not been available, or women felt that midwives did not have time to give them breastfeeding support. They felt that that added to postpartum depression.

What can we do to ensure that women feel supported? The crucial point about feeding your baby keeps coming up.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Our third agenda item is consideration of the Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill at stage 2. We have a substitute member: Marie McNair is substituting for David Torrance, who has given his apologies. I welcome the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care to the meeting.

Before we start, I will briefly explain the procedure for everyone who is watching. There will be one debate on each group of amendments. ?I will call the member who lodged the first amendment ?in that group to speak to and move that amendment and to speak to all the other amendments in the group.? I will then call any other members who have lodged amendments in the group.? Members who have not lodged amendments in the group but who wish to speak should make a request to speak by typing R in the BlueJeans chat function at the appropriate point. Please speak only when I call your name.

If the cabinet secretary has not already spoken to the group, I will invite him to contribute to the debate. The debate on the group will be concluded by me inviting the member who moved the first amendment in the group to wind up. Following the debate on each group, I will check whether the member who moved the first amendment in the group wishes to press that amendment to a vote or to withdraw it. If they wish to press ahead, I will put the question on whether the amendment is agreed to.

If that member does not want to press the amendment to a vote, any member who wishes the amendment to be put to a vote should put an N in the chat box at that stage. If that happens, we will then proceed to a vote on the amendment.

If a member wishes to withdraw their amendment after it has been moved, they must seek the agreement of other members to do so. If any member objects, the committee will immediately move to a vote on that amendment.

If any member does not want to move their amendment when it is called, they should say, “Not moved.” Please note that any other member present may move such an amendment. If no one moves an amendment, I will immediately call the next amendment on the marshalled list.

Only committee members are? permitted to vote. Voting will take place electronically using the BlueJeans online chat function. As convener, I will provide instructions?on how and when to vote, and those will also be relayed via the chat box. If any member has requested a vote on an amendment by placing an N in the chat function when asked if that amendment is agreed to, we will then proceed to a vote on the amendment as follows.

First, we will record votes for the amendment. Any member who wishes to vote for the amendment should place a Y in the chat box when prompted to do so.? Secondly, we will record votes against the amendment. Any member who wishes to vote against the amendment should place an N in the chat box when prompted to do so.? Thirdly, we will record abstentions on the amendment. Any member who wishes to abstain on the amendment should place an A in the chat box when prompted to do so.

To enable the clerks to record votes accurately, please do not use the chat box for any other reason during votes. If you need to communicate with me or the clerks for any other reason?during that time, please use the private messaging group that we have set up.

Once voting has been completed, the clerks will check the result and pass it to me to read out.? Once I have read out the result of the vote, should you consider that your vote has been incorrectly recorded, please let me know as soon as possible. I will pause to provide time for that.

The committee is required to indicate formally that it has considered and agreed to each section of the bill, so I will put a question on?whether?each section is agreed to at the appropriate point.

I now begin stage 2 proceedings.

Section 1—Power for Scottish Ministers to reimburse costs relating to the removal of transvaginal mesh

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Amendment 1, in the name of the cabinet secretary, is grouped with amendments 2 and 5.

We cannot hear the cabinet secretary. I can hear a bit of crackling, but that is about it.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

The question is, that amendment 5 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

There will be a division.

For

Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab)
O’Kane, Paul (West Scotland) (Lab)

Against

Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP)
Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con)
Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP)
Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green)
Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP)
Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)
Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con)

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Amendment 4, in the name of Jackie Baillie, is grouped with amendment 3. As amendment 4 pre-empts amendment 3, if amendment 4 is agreed to, I cannot call amendment 3.

11:00  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

As no member wishes to contribute, I invite the cabinet secretary to speak.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Amendment 6, in the name of Carol Mochan, is grouped with amendments 7 to 9.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Thank you. We heard your summing up on the amendments, cabinet secretary, so I call Carol Mochan to wind up and indicate whether she wishes to press or withdraw amendment 6.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Gillian Martin

The result of the division is: For 4, Against 6, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 8 disagreed to.

Amendment 9 not moved.

Section 1, as amended, agreed to.

Sections 2 to 5 agreed to.

Long title agreed to.