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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
Okay. Paul, do you want to come in, or are we ready to move on?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
We agree that we will defer our decision on the petition until we have found out more about on-going work. We will therefore keep PE1924 open.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
Gillian Mackay has questions on medicines and medical devices.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
Item 2 is continued scrutiny of the Patient Safety Commissioner for Scotland Bill. We have two evidence sessions this morning, the first of which involves representatives from industry bodies and professional organisations that relate to patient safety. After a short break, the committee will then hear from the Patient Safety Commissioner for England, as a number of members thought that that would be useful.
I welcome to the committee Dr Amit Aggarwal, the executive director of medical affairs for the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry;? Shaun Gallagher, the director of strategy and policy for the General Medical Council; Matthew McClelland, director of the Nursing and Midwifery Council; and Dr Chris Williams, the joint chair of the Royal College of General Practitioners Scotland. Joining us online is Richard Phillips, the director of strategy for the Association of British HealthTech Industries. Good morning to you all.
I will issue my usual caveat that not every member will be able to ask every witness to answer every question or we will be here all day. However, I like to start with an opening question to allow witnesses to state their case.
What are your general views of the establishment of a patient safety commissioner? What value would a patient safety commissioner add to the existing scrutiny mechanisms for patient safety?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
Panel members, please indicate to me if you want to come in.
I will take Dr Williams.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
I thank Dr Gary Duncan and Dr Henrietta Hughes for their time this morning.
I will not pause before we move on to the next item on our agenda. Our guests can leave or stay—it is up to them—but I am going to move straight on.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
The protocol is that the committee must decide either to take forward the petition, which means looking at an agency, or to close the petition and then make a decision about further scrutiny of the more general issue of rural healthcare that has been raised. We could absolutely do that—we can discuss that when we discuss our work programme.
I believe that NHS Dumfries and Galloway is one of the health boards that will come to the committee in due course as part of our general scrutiny of health boards. Therefore, a lot of the issues that Emma Harper has just raised—the issues that that health board area is facing and the decisions that have been made there—can be put directly to that health board.
With regard to petition protocols, we either take further evidence on the idea of an agency or close the petition. That would not preclude the petitioners from coming back with a new petition based on something that we find out as a result of any further work and scrutiny that we might do as part of an inquiry or whatever.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
We will. You are more than welcome to offer those suggestions now, but if you want to wait, that is fine.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
Agenda item 3 is consideration of three public petitions. The committee took evidence on the petitions from the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care on 17 January, and I will go through them one by one. Members should let me know whether they wish to comment on any of them.
The first petition is PE1845, which calls for a health agency to advocate for the healthcare needs of rural Scotland. I believe that Emma Harper wants to come in first, after which I will go to other members.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Gillian Martin
Yes—as part of a wider inquiry.
We take cognisance of and pay respect to the fact that the petition was lodged. As Paul Sweeney says, the petitioners were not really wedded to the idea of an agency but wanted the issues to be looked at, so they might be quite happy with that. That does not preclude them from deciding, “We have not changed our minds and we are going to bring back a new petition, exactly the same, and get this looked at again because, as a result of the work that the committee has done, we feel the same.”