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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Gillian Martin

The powers will enable regulations requiring developers—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Gillian Martin

This is a direct response to developers’ lack of accountability to communities. By law, developers will have to engage with communities and we will set out in secondary legislation the parameters of what we demand that engagement to look like. It is a direct response to the lack of accountability that, rightly, these community groups have been putting to us for many years.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Gillian Martin

I will just briefly respond to Sarah Boyack. I appreciate her point. It is important that the public understands the changes that are taking place with regard to our joint efforts in progressing a polluter-pays principle and reducing the amount of associated packaging. I think that that is something that really exercises people.

The beauty of EPR is that consumers will not have to do anything. It is the producers that will need to act, and we hope that they will reduce the amount of packaging. Local authorities will get money for dealing with the packaging as well.

This is one of those instruments in which we are not necessarily asking for any behavioural change from consumers, but they will, I hope, see a big impact with regard to what they buy for their households. We all go into schools in our constituencies. Young people, who are concerned about litter, climate change and our carbon footprint, regularly bring up with me the amount of packaging on products that they and their families buy in shops. I am hopeful that this instrument will lead to a real change in that over the years to come.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

I definitely do not have that information in front of me just now, but we can do an assessment of that. SEPA will be aware of the exact number, and we can certainly get it to the committee, but I do not have it in the information that is in front of me. I am looking at my officials, and I do not believe that they have it either.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

No, I am afraid not. It was too good to be true.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

If that is the feedback from anaerobic digestion companies and operators, I will take it away and put it directly to SEPA myself.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

A number of pieces of work are being done on this particular issue, but an awful lot more work and research still needs to be done. For example, Scotland’s Rural College is developing tools for land managers to reduce ammonia emissions; the work involves a process of communication with land managers so that we can get good practice on this, and I want that to be developed and disseminated among land managers before we consider anything associated with regulation.

The project will also provide us with evidence to demonstrate the benefits of mitigation measures on commercial farms and to support the identification of future regulation that might have to be introduced. The EU is looking at ammonia emissions, too; again, we will keep a watching brief on that with regard to alignment, but by the end of next year, the EU will have assessed whether there is a need for further regulation of the ammonia emissions associated with livestock. Of course, we are not waiting to see what happens in the EU, as important as that is—we are doing work in that area with the agricultural college.

Obviously, we want best practice on reducing ammonia emissions to be followed voluntarily before we consider whether anything might need to be done through regulation. That work is going on at the moment.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

SEPA has not requested additional money for that. It is able to do it within its existing budget.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

I imagine that they would, in the first instance. If people have the knowledge to enable them to associate the odour with a specific activity on a particular site—for example, if it was on the land, and they contacted SEPA—they will obviously not be turned away by another body. Indeed, if there was excessive odour associated with any of the sites that are operated by Scottish Water, they could contact Scottish Water. In a general sense, however, regarding the environment in someone’s own local authority area, they would contact the council in the first instance.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Gillian Martin

Of course. We do not want any local authority to be in any doubt about what they have to do if they receive complaints. It would be fairly straightforward to provide guidance to all 32 authorities.